range report and why I go to the range....

range report and why I go to the range....

This is a discussion on range report and why I go to the range.... within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I picked up an XD-40 a couple weeks ago. I put 150 rds through it last week and 250+ rds trough it today. I have ...

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    range report and why I go to the range....

    I picked up an XD-40 a couple weeks ago. I put 150 rds through it last week and 250+ rds trough it today. I have only used Winchester White box (165 grn) from Wally world. I have YET to have a failure to fire/feed.

    I had some issues on my 1st range trip with the XD. I had been shooting a P345, so I wanted to go again to make sure I was getting a good grip on the weapon and good sight alignment/picture. After about 10 rds today I got a good grip. I was shooting better with the XD than I had been. BUT, there feels like more recoil with this .40 vs the .45 of the p345. My forearms feel like they get worked out with the XD more than the P345. But the XD feels better in my hands than the P345. I am going to try and find some 180 grn WWB to shoot and see if the recoil feels any different

    In the 3 12 rd mags, I am able to get 12 rds in 1 mag, 11 in another and 10 in the 3rd mag. These numbers have increased since I bought the gun, guess the springs are tight. I can only assume the other 2 mags will losen up over time.

    Well after about 100 rds I FINALLY was able to shoot with BOTH eyes OPEN. I have not been able to do it with any good results. WEll today I was able to keep both eyes open and get more consistant results than with 1 eye closed. I am working on finding a good stance that I can consistantly get.

    So why do I go to the range? To get more consistant and get better at every aspect of owning and shooting MY guns and it's fun. I think most of us go for these same reasons. Yeah you may feel foolish about how you look or what people may think, get over it. I stand there with no gun in hand sometimes working on my stance. If you don't PRACTICE you won't get any better. I'll get off my soap box now..lol

    My results from ~21ft away.






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    i think he's been stopped, lol. seriously though, good shooting.

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    Practice is always good. I'm sure you've already analyzed your misses, what you could have done better, etc.

    Which... is why we shoot :)

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    Nice shooting. Practicing good form before hand is not foolish in the least. Everyone has to start somewhere and get good.
    Probably more recoil due to the gun weight and caliber. Maybe try some 165 Gr. bullets too.

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    I know that going to the range is important even if I have to force myself to go these days.

    It's really the only way I have of being sure all is good to go for carry. Both the firearms and myself.

    I think I posted a few weeks ago that after around 200 rounds I felt beaten up some. But after getting some good advice from other members here I think I can work around the problem.

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    Practice is a good reason to go to the range. I have to get there a lot more this year!!
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    PRACTICE, PRACTICE, and more PRACTICE at the range are the only way to go. Bring the target to the 7 and/or 5-yard line then start shooting with both eyes open. At this distance use your front sight only. Put the front sight on target and shoot. Get good close in before moving out to further distances. For your stance find one that you like. Some people like the Weaver stance; I like both arms out front, with feet apart, leaning forward.

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    Both eyes open, knees slightly bent and the rest is up to the shooter...
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    I will not let my students shoot head shots,period !! COM ONLY. Take a look at your targets. Taking the head shots you had 10 shots that I feel would not even start to stop an agression. In the COM target,I feel that every shot would stop agression. For me,the ONLY shot at a standing(faceing) target is COM. ----------

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    Good session Bags - you have proved to yourself again what we all realize - there really is no substitute for our practice, live fire or even dry.

    I agree in part with RSSZ re COM vs head but still think it is quite OK to include headshot practice, as long as that is and remains a secondary consideration. It is still useful IMO to be able to gain an instinctive shoot ability for those.

    Keep up the good work and hey - I am well behind on range time yet this year - gotta put that to rights very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bags
    I had some issues on my 1st range trip with the XD. I had been shooting a P345, so I wanted to go again to make sure I was getting a good grip on the weapon and good sight alignment/picture. After about 10 rds today I got a good grip. I was shooting better with the XD than I had been. BUT, there feels like more recoil with this .40 vs the .45 of the p345. My forearms feel like they get worked out with the XD more than the P345. But the XD feels better in my hands than the P345. I am going to try and find some 180 grn WWB to shoot and see if the recoil feels any different
    In my experience shooting the XD40 Service, it does not. I can't feel any sort of difference in 165 grain vs. 180. My carry ammo is a 165 grain load so that's what I practice with just to be anal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bags
    In the 3 12 rd mags, I am able to get 12 rds in 1 mag, 11 in another and 10 in the 3rd mag. These numbers have increased since I bought the gun, guess the springs are tight. I can only assume the other 2 mags will losen up over time.
    XD mags are TIGHT brother. I keep a speedloader everywhere I keep my mags, it's the only way to reload many of them.

    My carry mags are my carry mags because they're mostly broken in... it's still awful hard to get that last round in there sometimes though.

    Load them all up with ammunition and just let them sit somewhere... I've got 6 XD mags right now loaded up and sitting in cold storage. Eventually they'll break in but it'll be a while!

    This is one reason I'm so happy about the XD45ACP magazines... they're much easier to load without sacrificing any of the dead on reliability. That, and the fatter cartridges are much easier to stuff in there.

    Good show!

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    nice groups....

    I go to the range at the least...once a week (whatz a jobless bum to do ? ). double and triple taps with the .380 and .38---
    the .357 and 10mm deserve slow methodical fire until I feel real comfortable about trying a double tap.
    What I really need is tactical practice...

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    My only problem with your target is that I count approx. 50 rounds fired at the head with 5 clear misses and 2 borderline to incapacitate him. (the ear shots). That 86% accuracy. Where do the 5 misses wind up?

    Furthermore, remember that you are absolutely legally, morally and ethically responsible for where those misses wind up.

    You are shooting at a static target, ie. one that is not moving, and you only hit 86%. Keep practicing and don't try head shots until you are sure you can score 100%, 100% of the time.

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    I understand why the "head shot" is taking a little heat, but I have a different take on it.

    My wife and I both shoot the COM right out of the target in fairly short order. At this point, you really can't see where you are hitting. So, rather than change targets, we simply shift our point of aim up to the head area so we can see & correct our fire.

    Target tape would be good, but isn't available at the local range.

    In the future, I think I'll either buy some smaller bull's-eye targets or just print some up, to tape over the COM of the silhouette target, once it's been shot out.

    Besides, if you want to relate paper-punching to "real life," if I put 4 or 5 rounds into a BG's COM and he's still a threat, then it may be that he's wearing some darned-good body armor or is "methed-to-the-max," and I will shift to the noggin' to find his personal "off-switch."

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    I've got a different take on the head shot too. That may be all that's available. So if you don't practice taking head shots, what happens when that's all that's available?

    I practice head shots with the thought that that might be the only solution. A guy's holding my wife in front of him and is a clear threat to her. Where's the COM and pelvis shot now?

    Who can't make a head shot at 3 yards? The head is connected to the body by the neck. It has limited motion and at three yards, it's a pretty good sized target.

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