False alarm... I was wrong.

False alarm... I was wrong.

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    False alarm... I was wrong.

    So I bought a NEW Kel-Tek P3AT at a gun show Saturday. Took it down tonight to polish the feed ramp and found... what looks like burned powder in the barrel. Is this normal? Does Kel-Tek test out new guns and then not clean them? Did I get sold a used gun as new?
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    Sounds like it...

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    Not unusual at all. Be glad the factory did fire it to make sure it works.
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    If I remember correctly most companies fire the weapon to make sure it functions before shipping, and none of them I know of clean it. If you find other evidence that it is used, that is one thing, but the burned powder is probably from test firing.
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    As far as I know, every manufacturer fires at least two round out of each gun.

    They do this because some states require you to furnish a fired case with each gun you "register". Now is it a Used gun? Yes and No. Yes, in that it has been fired. No, as it was fired by the maker to test functionality and comply with state law.

    As far as cleaning each and every gun. Do you want to pay more for your gun? That's what it would require because nobody cleans a gun for free. It takes time to clean a gun, and employees are paid an hourly wage. I'd rather pay less and clean it myself, which I do anyway before I fire it.

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    I don't think I ever bought a NEW gun that wasn't, by my standards, dirty.

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    Thanks for the quick replies! Sounds reasonable to me.
    This is my first "new" firearm ever. Every other that I own was previously enjoyed.
    I'm always leary of buying at a show...
    Other that being a little dirty inside it looks new I guess.

    Thanks!!!
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    Take to to the range and if it works well...no problem.
    Yes, I have found some powder in new weapons that I have purchased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmhawth View Post
    I don't think I ever bought a NEW gun that wasn't, by my standards, dirty.
    +1

    Most of the guns i've bought were dirtier when i got it from the retailer than after a long range trip. Many guns that are also sold to military/police are shipped from the factory with long term storage in mind. Depending on what gun you buy you'll find grease, anti-sieze paste, burnt powder, dust, metal shavings, polymer shavings... anything that comes into contact with it during manufacturing could potentially show up inside it at the retailers depending on quality control.

    Its frustrating sometimes but just look at it as a good opportunity to fully disassemble your new gun and get intimately familiar with its parts before you take it to the range.
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    WELL I NEVER,j/k In New York you can not buy an unfired handgun as they have to send a fired casing to the state police. That my friend is one of Hillery's accomplishments. As a side note, since it's inception it has yet to help solve one crime.
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    My M&P came with a fired casing....I thought this was just standard practice. The envelope it came in tells the date and who fired the test round...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaSteve View Post
    My M&P came with a fired casing....I thought this was just standard practice. The envelope it came in tells the date and who fired the test round...
    They do that for states that require it to be on file. You however must live in a free state and I in NY.
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    Just bought a new S&W38 Jframe. It had a spent cartridge included in the case.
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    Hmm, i thought thats was was required when you purchased a new gun. When I bought my Bersa I was given the 2 brass left over when they test fired it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdjspider View Post
    Hmm, i thought thats was was required when you purchased a new gun. When I bought my Bersa I was given the 2 brass left over when they test fired it.
    Maybe they fired three and gave you two.
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