May 23rd, 2009 08:34 PM
FN Five seveN
This gun seems like it wold be a lot of fun at the range, and I will probably pick one up for that reason. Ammo is a bit expensive and difficult to find, but manageable. My question though...
Is this gun effective for Defensive Use with the civilian ammo that is allowed to be purchased?
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May 23rd, 2009 09:21 PM
I personally would consider this gun to be dangerous as a self defense carry gun. It is a rifle in a pistol sized package but does not have the accuracy of a rifle. Very small, very fast bullet, carry's a long way.
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May 23rd, 2009 09:28 PM
May 23rd, 2009 09:35 PM
With the .45 and 9mm and several others, this is more a survival weapon than one used for SD.
The trajectory is supposedly almost 'flat' for a 100 yards...a lot of power for 3-5 yard confrontations...IMHO
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May 23rd, 2009 10:06 PM
Inadequate penetration with any available bullet. Request the test data from FN. Our PD ruled them out for duty use very quickly.
I got to attend their armorer school and, given that inside look, I wouldn't buy one. Well, I won't buy another one. I have one from when they first came out.
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May 23rd, 2009 10:19 PM
The FivenSeven is a military combat arm. It is designed to be used against armored targets as a companion sidearm to the P90. Even with the civilian rounds they are a little to much for CC engagements IMO. As to everything else it seems a fine weapon, I personally would love one.
I know not what this "overkill" means.
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May 24th, 2009 07:20 AM
I like the round, but only in the PS90, which is an absolute hoot to shoot. Nice little weapon for shorter range (<100 yards) defense, but for a handgun, I'd stick with something that starts with a "4".
FN makes some very nice stuff though.
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May 24th, 2009 10:10 PM
Do you carry a gun that's not dangerous?
Originally Posted by Tally XD
May 24th, 2009 10:40 PM
I have a FN5.7 and a AR57 upper both are absolute fun to shoot I would not have any trouble carrying the pistol for self defense.
June 22nd, 2009 04:27 PM
sorry to chime in a bit late but
Civilian rounds at the range would be a blast, half the recoil of a 9mm. The real stuff on the shelf for when times get real tough, and 20 rounds.
I'd love to have the Five Seven Tactical version.
I do agree however that the 5.7x28mm moving at 2,050fps is a bit much for a 3 to 7 yard confrontation, not for the BG of course, but for the 4 or 5 innocent people behind them.
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June 22nd, 2009 07:46 PM
It is a neat gun...about the size of a full size glock...has 20 round mags and a nice effective range, and it is an FN. However, I don't think I would use it as a SD weapon. These weapons have been villified in the press as "cop killers" and "body armor penetrators" we all know they are not evil. That however would not stop and eager prosecutor and or uneducated LE agency from trying to fry your bacon in front of 12 of your peers. There are some leather makers making CC rigs for them, but at most it would be a HD gun or Range gun for me.
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June 22nd, 2009 10:16 PM
It's definitely a fun range gun. I only got off a few rounds, but from those few, I wouldn't personally use it as my EDC gun for SD. It's certainly effective, but I carry with the idea that if I am ever in a SHTF situation, it will be at closer range than this big boy needs. Definitely loud, and like HavOkSIS said above, I'd be more worried about the 4 or 5 folks behind the BG at that distance.
But if you want an excuse to get one, I say go for it, and have a ton of fun at the range! :)
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June 22nd, 2009 11:51 PM
I personally will not shoot one. A member here had one blow up in his hand, using factory ammunition, and for me they are not safe.
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June 23rd, 2009 06:45 AM
Can you post a link to that? The only problem I've seen was a verified re-load with a double powder charge.
Originally Posted by Jackle1886
Some of you are under the impression the round has from some great overpenetration properties...
The test I've seen show this to be not the case.
but for the 4 or 5 innocent people behind them.
Normal civilian round,
SS195 FMJ and SS197 ballistic tip (bare and heavy clothing)
and again through body armour,
Brass Fetcher Ballistic testing
If there are other tests available that demonstrate something different, please post the links. I'd be very interested.
June 23rd, 2009 08:11 AM
5.7x28 ammo is quite easy to find here... vs 5.56 anyway.
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