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This is a discussion on rock island 1911 within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; so i went to the range today, and wound up shooting a rock island 1911. whats everones thoughts on these? i heard the guts are ...

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    rock island 1911

    so i went to the range today, and wound up shooting a rock island 1911. whats everones thoughts on these? i heard the guts are interchangable with a colt, is this true? whatever input you guys have would be great, thanks


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    You get what you pay for. Those cheap Filipino guns are very erratic in quality and workmanship. There will be a bunch replying that they love them. For $200 more, you can get yourself into a decent manufacturer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Husker View Post
    You get what you pay for. Those cheap Filipino guns are very erratic in quality and workmanship. There will be a bunch replying that they love them. For $200 more, you can get yourself into a decent manufacturer.
    oh ok, cool i hadnt heard much on them so i was jsut curious

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    They are built to GI spec as far as parts fit. As far as hardness of internal parts, I doubt they are GI spec, but can't say for sure. I have only changed parts on one of mine to a GI curved mainspring housing and WWII plastic type grips.

    Go to the 1911 forum. They have a section thread on these in the "other 1911s" section. You can learn a lot there and look at pics of some that have been highly modified.

    I got one on a trade and liked it so much that I bought another. Neither have ever given me any trouble. They are pretty accurate for a GI .45 and seem to run regardless of what I feed them and I have fed them a lot of different types of HP ammo. They are also not magazine finicky in my epxerience. I have used Novak, Mec, McCormick, and some cheap GI surplus type mags without trouble.

    The older one jammed a few times during the break in period (first 250 rounds). I didn't own it then, but helped my friend that I got it from break it in. Since then I have not had a single jam and have fired more than 1000 rounds out of the older one and about 3 or 400 out of the new one. Both without cleaning other than a wipe down while I was testing their functionality over a series of range trips. The new one required no break in period and ran fine right out of the box. It has not had a malfuntion thus far of any kind.

    I have not shot them much lately due to the lack of ammo availability and ammo price increases. With such a low round count on them, I don't feel qualified to speak as to long term (thousands of rounds) durability. I wish I could, but I just can't afford to burn up large amounts of .45 acp these days.

    As a general rule, you could spend a little more and get a Springfield G.I., but I got mine for substantially less than a Springfield and have not been disappointed.
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    what 1911 forum are you talking about? ill head there. thanks :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Husker View Post
    You get what you pay for. Those cheap Filipino guns are very erratic in quality and workmanship. There will be a bunch replying that they love them. For $200 more, you can get yourself into a decent manufacturer.
    Hey, if you had any Husker blood left in you, you'd be excited about the value priced RIA's

    From what I've read on several forums, folks who have them seem pretty happy with both the pistols and the customer service. You might look at: The M1911 Pistols Organization Forums Site - Armscor/Rock Island forum for more information. I've read that forum for awhile and would sure consider one (the Compact). They offer the "G.I." style and the tactical which has better sights, different hammer and a beavertail grip safety.

    It seems like any make of 1911 can have some problems but, for the most part, they can be sorted out. I've had two Springfield's that had some "teething" problems. Lessening tension on the extractor and changing the design of the 200 gr SWC bullet I was using had them both running 100% before I sold them. I did have to send the LW Champion back right off the bat for a heavy trigger pull and loose plunger tube but turn around was fast and there was no cost and Springfield pays shipping both ways.

    BTW, Springfield's have a lifetime warranty that follows the pistol so, if you can get a good deal on a used one (that hasn't been "smithed" by Bubba) the warranty is good. Makes for a pretty good value.

    Oh, the reason the two Springfield's were sold? They were great shooters and the 5" Loaded was very accurate but, I bought a STI Trojan 9mm and Dan Wesson CBOB I like to keep the "CFO" happy so try to limit the number of guns I own

    STI does offer a "Spartan" which is a "value priced" 1911 in 45 ACP that would be worth looking into. I believe they're made in the Philippines but are assembled there with some STI parts and they seem to get good reviews and STI customer service gets very high ratings.
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    I like used guns. The original owner has usually worked the problems out. That brings you to some nice Kimbers, Springfield Loaded, Colts, Dan Wessons, etc. in the $600 range. Do you want a Mil-Spec (like an Army issue) or the bells and whistles? All the brands I listed will provide most upgrades folks want.
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    id LOVE a kimber, or a colt, but ive never seen one for around 600 :(

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    One of the members there is a factory rep for RIA (Ivan, I think) and their factory service seems to be good, based on the discussions on the board that I have read.

    My Dad's Colt has malfuntioned more than my RIAs, much to his displeasure. It is a bit mag finicky and doesn't like to run much when hot and dirty. That being said, the Colt will likely outlast the RIA 2 to 1 over the long term. Then again, it's worth over $1000. I traded a $175 shotgun for my first RIA and paid $400 cash for the other one, new in the box. I also have lots of other guns to trust my life to, and the RIA's are pretty much play-toys for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudpeak View Post
    Hey, if you had any Husker blood left in you, you'd be excited about the value priced RIA's.
    The altitude there must have mushed your brains.
    I know your background and where you're from. I'll bet you didn't take the same outlook on farm equipment. Let's see...John Deere or Oliver at half the price...they both can pull a disc or baler, so they're the same, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Husker View Post
    The altitude there must have mushed your brains.
    I know your background and where you're from. I'll bet you didn't take the same outlook on farm equipment. Let's see...John Deere or Oliver at half the price...they both can pull a disc or baler, so they're the same, right?
    John Deere or Oliver? Heck, when I was a kid, me and another guy scooped 11 tons of feed off a wagon pulled by two horses every morning. I did that for four summers. Danged kids
    Cloudpeak

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutumbo View Post
    id LOVE a kimber, or a colt, but ive never seen one for around 600 :(
    Prior to Obambi I used to see used Kimbers, Colts and Springfields all the time for around $600.

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    Ive heard that RIA has one of the best customer service dept.s of any one.

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    The BEST service is never needing any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wagglebee View Post
    Prior to Obambi I used to see used Kimbers, Colts and Springfields all the time for around $600.
    :( thanks for tellin me this NOW . . . hahah

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