S&W 642 without lock?

S&W 642 without lock?

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    S&W 642 without lock?

    Can you purchase the model 642 without the lock on the frame or is that a "safety" feature that is now built into all of those models?
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    S&W knows what you need, but not what you want...

    I believe the current production 642s have the lock. However, I seem to recall reading that S&W recently made a special run without the lock that quickly sold out. In general, you have to buy a used 642 of older vintage to avoid the lock. I bought the one below new about 1996.

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    Yes there is a limited number of them out there without the lock. Was a special run a while back. Check gunbroker.

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    Thank you for the reply. I see know that they have the model without the lock on the S&W website, checking gunbroker now.
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    It is a production gun without the lock. They are just hard to get at this time. I work in a gun shop and we have had both about three months ago. I picked one up. Great backup gun.

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    I bought mine last fall, and it does not have a lock. Another store of the same chain where I got mine only had them with locks at the time ... go figure.

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    Not sure if the NO-LOCKS are going ,but they are still found in the Smith catalog. The Model 40 and it's Airweight brother, the Model 42 don't have locks because they have a grip safety. They're known as "Lemon Squeezers". Another option.
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    I just had my cracked frame IL 442 replaced by S&W with a new no-lock 442 last month, so the frame is still being made.
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    They're known as "Lemon Squeezers".
    They're known as "Centennials."


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    Quote Originally Posted by aag View Post
    I bought mine last fall, and it does not have a lock. Another store of the same chain where I got mine only had them with locks at the time ... go figure.
    I picked one up last fall myself. I can't seem to find another one around now and was told by the S&W rep it was a special run
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    In answer to your question, yes you can find them. In fairness though, I see no need to even worry about the ones with the lock...I'd have to look twice to see if mine had one (not really)...it's unimportant and makes no difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    They're known as "Centennials."
    All the Smith enclosed hammer/DAO revolvers are known as Centennials anymore but those are the traditional ones.

    I actually saw a no lock 642 in a shop last week. I asked the clerk about it and he said it had just come from the distributor. They asked for a 642 and they got one. I am not interested in lightweights anymore as I have plenty of prelock and I prefer stainless anyway so I pointed out to the guy that it was a no lock. He asked me if I wanted it and I said no. Then he put in the back and said he was going to buy it. Hehehe. I suppose I would have done the same in his position.

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    I think the reasons I would prefer the model without a lock is because I see no reason for one to have a lock and I do not like the way it looks with the lock. When I look at a revolver I not only see it as a tool but I see it as a piece of art and a piece of history, unlike the auto I own that is simply a tool I use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    They're known as "Centennials."
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    YES and NO! Lemon Squeezer is a nickname going way back. We both get HALF credit for the answer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by old grunt View Post
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    YES and NO! Lemon Squeezer is a nickname going way back. We both get HALF credit for the answer!
    Yeah, it goes way back. The "lemon squeezer" backstrap safety was first used on the S&W .32 Safety Hammerless, or New Departure, revolver, 1st model, introduced in 1888, continued on the 2nd Model (1902) through the 3rd Model (1909.)

    The nickname was a term adopted by some collectors, but was never used by the the S&W factory.

    So yeah, we both get half credit.


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