Beretta Tomcat?? .32 ACP as a whole??

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    Beretta Tomcat?? .32 ACP as a whole??

    These seem like largely ignored pocket pistols...with the right ammo they wouldnt be any worse than some of the other borderline SD pocket guns carried by many of our members They are a Beretta. You can even get CT grips for them. Give me your thoughts? Who here can make a case for or against a .32 for a pocket gun? I would primarily be looking to this for a "no gun" gun or a BUG.
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    I'm a big fan now of pocket pistols. Although I find it hilarious that the Grendal P-12 in my back pocket is invisible to everyone, despite the fact it prints the worst I have ever seen.
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    i have one

    i have a tomcat, which i bought used. despite the somewhat sketchy reputation they seem to have for wearing out, mine works fine- never had a ftf or fte or any sort of jam with it. it shoots the hollowpoint rounds just as well as fmj stuff. i use winchester silvertip when i carry it, which i admit isnt too often.
    easy to shoot- very little recoil. it is possible to accidentally push the barrel tip-up latch, which is a pain. the gun is quite heavy for its size. like all berettas, the quality is good.
    i prefer my j frames by a large margin, but i would carry it if it was what was usable or available to me.
    as for the 32 acp, it is marginal of course. fiocchi makes some hotter stuff- sort of like P+ maybe. but i wouldnt think it was possible to make this round really adequate. on the other hand, the ammo is CUTE!
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    I have a Tomcat that's on my "will never get rid of" list. Fun little gun but as a SD firearm, I'm afraid it's been greatly surpassed by other offerings. The little Tomcat weighs 15.8 ozs. empty compared to 8.3 ozs. for the P-3AT or 9.4 ozs. for the LCP. When you look at the ballistics for standard ammo:
    Hornady Custom Ammunition 32 ACP 60 Grain XTP Jacketed Hollow Point
    Muzzle Velocity: 1000 fps
    Muzzle Energy: 133 ft. lbs.

    Hornady Custom Ammunition 380 ACP 90 Grain XTP Jacketed Hollow Point
    Muzzle Velocity: 1000 fps
    Muzzle Energy: 200 ft. lbs.
    there seems to be no reason or advantage to carrying the Tomcat over one of the small 380s unless you find the tip-up barrel to be a necessity.

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    I was going to purchase one back in early 2009 but after reading threads from the Beretta forum, I decided against it. I actually had a deposit on a Beretta here in NY. But apparently the Tomcat, has had issues with cracks within the frame soon after firing. As a result I purchased a S&W 642 and most recently a .45 ACP Kimber Ultra Carry II. Please see the forum: Welcome to the Beretta Forum for more information. For those who do own one, please perform a disassembly and check the frame thoroughly. From what I also understand the Beretta Tomcat Inox is stainless and hence can withstand more pressure and recoil. No problems on that particular model. Hope this helps.

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    Here is my $.02 on the Beretta Tomcat. Both my son and I had Tomcats that we bought new. Mine never jammed, and his always jammed.

    Neither one of us have the Tomcat any longer, for the following reasons:
    .32 caliber= too anemic for serious self defense.
    Although the gun is small, it is conciderably heavy for its size.
    The weight of the Tomcat is the same as the S&W airweight, and I'd rather carry 38 +p than 32.
    Finally, the Tomcat is expensive for what it is. I think they are going for around $450 now, and for that money there are better choices.

    There are some of us who trade a gun and then regret trading it. To me the Beretta is one of those guns that not only do I NOT miss it, I totally forgot I ever owned it until I read this post.
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    I debated on a Tomcat for a while, but started finding the threads regarding the frames cracking. Some of the posts included the results of conversations with Beretta getting getting the problem fixed or the gun replaced.

    While the warranty/customer support appears good, I decided against the gun due to number of people experiencing the same problem in the same area (I also was unable to find any posts regarding the problem being fixed in newer models [Blued model only] - but it is possible that I missed it).

    I have read that the INOX model, while heavier, doesn't seem to have the problem.
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    The 32 is still viable under certain circumstances. While there are some 380 and even 9 mm that is "small" it is also harder to control for some who have a hard time holding the gun (and it is a better choice than 22 and much more than a 25).

    Remember those who are recoil sensitive. And arthritis. And after an operation.

    The gun itself does weigh more than some at that size... but if it is reliable than consider that the very same weight helps absorb perceived recoil and the tip up is a savior for those who have issues pulling back the slide.

    I would consider it a "get off me" gun and who here would volunteer to get shot by a 32 at contact distance. ;-)
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    Without getting into the inevitable caliber debate, the Tomcat has something of a sketchy reputation for reliability. It's also significantly heavier than many of the other alternatives available.

    For both reasons, I wouldn't personally choose it as a pocket gun.
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    Prefer my lcp anyday over the tomcat.
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    I like my (380) PPK, even though it is heavy. If you can go with a higher caliber, why not?

    That is, for people who can physically handle it; the kick of 380 is surprising for such a small cartridge and the PPK slide is impossible to rack for someone with weak hands.
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    I carry a .32 almost daily. I chose the Seecamp for my pocket carry over the Beretta, (my second choice), primarily due to the size and weight issue. A good, reliable, easy to carry pocket gun is the most useful tool in the arsenal of concealed carriers, IMHO. As to the .32acp being potent for self defence... of course it is.

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    I have two KelTecs, a .32 and a .380. There appears to be very little difference in size...almost identical, so concealment makes little difference in choosing one over the other.
    When it comes to power, the .380 may have a little more power, but not much for my wife to even notice. I like both little guns, but if I had to pick one over the other, I'd obviously would go the 'slightly' more powerful P-3AT.
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    I have been looking all over at pocket guns...and the Tomcat seems to be available more so than the LCP or others. Guess I am answering my own question here.

    The .32 round can't be that bad...James Bond carried it...LOL
    Really thought there are LOTS of PPKs out there in .32 that got the job done for many a person in years previous. Like one poster said, it would be my "get off me" gun. I probably wont go with the Tomcat but I am getting a pocket gun and .32 is not out of the running.
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