442-1

This is a discussion on 442-1 within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; so I drosed a 442-1 last night got it for 240.00, excellent condition in the original box...well i noticed that it does not say +p ...

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    442-1

    so I drosed a 442-1 last night got it for 240.00, excellent condition in the original box...well i noticed that it does not say +p on the barrel....

    Can I shoot +p in this gun?

    I am guessing not and thats no biggie i just thought i'd ask the experts....

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    I bought a 442 last year and it does say .38 special +P on the barrell. I assume from your description that you bought it used. I am not sure if older 442s were or were not +P capable. In the meantime until you get more information I would not fire any +P ammo from that gun. For what it is worth I never shoot +P from mine anyway. I tried it and found that +P ammo was just a bit too much to handle comfortably. The way to almost ensure that someone has an unpleasent shooting experience, take them to the range and have them fire 50 rounds of +P 128gr ammo from a small lightweight j-frame like the 442.
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    If it doesn't say +P on the barrel I would think it requires use of only standard pressure ammunition. Federal has reissued the 125 gr. Nyclad Holow points in standard pressure, suppose to be one of the all time best loads for the .38 special. The hornady critical defense round in standard pressure is another good choice.

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    yeah I go it used, and I agree the +ps out of these little guys are a little tought to handle for a new shooter and I can only take so many....

    I have not fired any +p out of it yet I dont want to break my new toy

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    At that price you don't need ammo! You scored big time. The plus-p issue has usually been to follow the manufacturers recommendations. Now, I believe you will not have a catastrophic failure in a non plus-p gun, but you can wear them out much quicker with a steady diet of such ammo. My opinion only. I have an older model 38 bodyguard and firing plus p seems to be more of a control issue in such a light-weight gun . My experience only. jh

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    call S&W and give them the serial number. They should be able to tell you if that gun was built for +p although I am guessing its not.
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    I've always been under the impression that a no dash (ex. 442) is not +P rated.

    All dash models (ex. 442-1) are rated for +P ammunition.
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    Don't worry about it. You got a great snubbie for a 'cheap' price...shoot reg .38's, not a problem...enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by semperfi.45 View Post

    All dash models (ex. 442-1) are rated for +P ammunition.
    Sorry, not true, Sir.

    The S&W Model 442-1 is a transition model, introduced in 1996. The Dash-1 designation means this revolver is built on the J Magnum frame and cylinder with the new style cylinder release latch. It is rated for +P ammo.

    Source: Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, 3rd Ed. P243.


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    I stand (actually sit) corrected. Good to know and thanks.
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    I would post pictures but seeing as how I live in the wonderful state of CA they do not trust me with my gun....I will not get it untill the 28th,

    oh seril number on it is CCE 0060....any idea on year made and will this help tell if its +p rated?

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    oh seril number on it is CCE 0060....any idea on year made and will this help tell if its +p rated?
    Serial number CCE-0060 was made in November, 1997.

    Did you miss my post #9 in this thread?

    Your Model 442-1 IS rated for +P ammo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    Sorry, not true, Sir.

    The S&W Model 442-1 is a transition model, introduced in 1996. The Dash-1 designation means this revolver is built on the J Magnum frame and cylinder with the new style cylinder release latch. It is rated for +P ammo.

    Source: Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, 3rd Ed. P243.
    Thanks, good to know but I still think that standard pressure .38 special is sufficient and much more pleasent to shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimH58 View Post
    Thanks, good to know but I still think that standard pressure .38 special is sufficient and much more pleasent to shoot.
    Couldn't agree more, but that isn't the point.

    The question asked was whether the 442-1 was +P rated.

    This is not the place to debate the virtues of +P versus standard pressure ammo.


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