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    Dan Wesson Bobtail

    Can anyone tell me about the Dan Wesson Bobtail? Looks like an Ed Brown but way cheaper(still a lot though). I notice they use some Ed Brown parts. Are they affiliated in anyway? Are they reliable? Are Dan Wesson 1911's manufactured in the U.S.?
    Any info would be appreciated.
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    They are made in NY if I am not mistaken, Dan Wesson is now owned by CZ, but was a US Company before, DW 1911s are still made in the US and are considered very reliable. They are not affiliated with Ed Brown to my Knowledge.

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    From the CZ/DW Website:

    THE DAN WESSON FIREARM, THE HISTORY & HERITAGE

    1968-2005

    The Dan Wesson Heritage

    Each Dan Wesson Firearms revolver bears the name of Daniel B. Wesson, who founded Wesson Firearms Co., Inc. in 1968. The great-grandson of D. B. Wesson, co-founder of Smith & Wesson, his goal was to build the finest revolvers that the shooting world had ever seen. He accomplished this by creating guns that were innovative, virtually indestructible and capable of match-grade accuracy right out of the box.

    Dan Wesson was a perfectionist, preferring to build a few truly great guns, rather than many merely good ones. In an era of mega-corporations and bottom-line management, he would never allow quality to be sacrificed for the sake of quantity. And it didn’t stop there. His philosophy was “You can never be fully satisfied. You can always make something better.” This kept him on a course of constant improvement, while providing his customers with the very best revolvers that money could buy.

    Elgin Gates, the father of modern handgun silhouette shooting, said of Dan Wesson, “He was one of the great men of the firearms industry and of his time; one of those individuals who made things happen, who kept the handgun world honest because he built the best guns that brains and material could turn out. Because of that, the others dared not do less.”

    The Company continued to develop its product line from the introduction of the model 12, .357 magnum in 1969 to the Large frame 44 magnum series in 1977 to the massive SuperMag frame series in 1982. In 1996 the Company was acquired by Robert Serva and in 1998 moved to Norwich, N.Y., to reestablish the revolver line. From 1998 to 2000 very few revolvers were produced. Efforts were made to retool the revolver line with new equipment and fixturing to produce production revolvers at the highest quality possible using modern manufacturing techniques. In 2000 a small production run began starting with the Large frame and SuperMag series of revolvers. Yes, this did take several years of very hard work and dedication by the personnel of the company, bringing in new equipment, producing new tooling, fixturing, programs and processes. To achieve the standards of the core Dan Wesson Company these steps had to be taken and personal sacrifices made.

    In 2000 the Company also started working on the development of a 1911 style pistol. The objective for this product line was the same as the revolvers. Development of the 1911 pistol was directed to build the most accurate out of the box 1911 on the market and also incorporate features that the shooter in this frame of history desires. This goal was achieved and Dan Wesson Firearms now offers some of the highest quality 1911 pistols in the market incorporating high end parts from companies such as Ed Brown, EGW, CMC, Grieder Precision and many others. Dan Wesson continues to move forward in the 1911 pistols with new features as the commander size, the Ed Brown bobtail and the 10mm chambering to name a few.

    In 2005 a great opportunity came to Dan Wesson Firearms in the form of the world’s largest firearms producer CZ. CZ had been looking at Dan Wesson Firearms for its revolvers, innovative thinking and implementation of new products within the marketplace. CZ-USA in early 2005 acquired Dan Wesson Firearms and is now managing it as a part of the CZ corporate group. For the first time in the history of Dan Wesson Firearms all key business components to take the company forward exist. With CZ, the corporate structure to develop the company properly now firmly exists and it now has the brightest future outlook it has ever had. All major components, management, development, manufacturing, marketing and sales are now in place for Dan Wesson firearms to develop into a world class company. With the union with CZ, Dan Wesson Firearms is now positioned with the recourses and personnel to make it a top manufacturer in the global firearms market. This history will continue to step forward with new and exciting products and innovation from the excellent people of CZ and Dan Wesson Firearms.

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    Either (DW or EB) would be a great carry 1911, but I'd prefer the Ed Brown, and I'm going to have one someday.
    Dan Wesson is going to be a lot cheaper, and still a quality firearm.
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    If you really want to know and learn more about the DW CBOB, check out the Dan Wesson group over on 1911forum.com. Tons of pics and great discussion about this pistol. It's basically a poor man's Ed Brown --- quite a few of the internals are Ed Brown parts. I've looked at Colts, Kimbers, SAs, and others, and IMO, the DW bobtail is probably the best production 1911 for the price on the market.

    Good luck finding one. Fortunately, I DID find one last week and snagged it. It should arrive at my FFL either today or tomorrow. Like Ret, I'd like to own a genuine EB ... someday.

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    No personal experience with the 1911's but Dan Wesson revolvers are very nice... a friend has a 357 with 3 barrels, all sorts of accessories... from the little I have seen, the quality is exceptional...
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    I have a DW revolver and it's a tack driver for certian. When I decide to add a 1911 to the collection, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another DW.
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    If I had the cash I would buy one in a NY minute!
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    I've had mine for about a year now. Excellent quality. Less than 5000ths of an inch tolerance throughout the gun. I looked at a Nighthawk bobtail the other day. Very nice gun but not worth $2000 more than my Dan Wesson. This is my 8th 1911 and by far the best. It carries well, shoots and handles well and is very accurate. If this gun were made by Kimber it would have "Custom Shop" engraved on the side and be $400 more expensive.

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    I really like my 45 CBOB. Great shooter and in my price range. I'm down to two 1911's now, a CBOB and a 9mm STI Trojan.


    More pictures of the CBOB with the Dawson sights I installed and pics of targets: CBOB and targets pictures by WyoBob - Photobucket
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    The Dan Wesson CBOB and their 1911's in general are possibly the best value in a semi-custom 1911 going today. Loaded with hi end features for very resonable price. Great Guns in general. I own a DW Pointman 7 and its the best 1911 I own.
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    I had one in 10mm but had to sell it for another project. I agree that it's probably the best value in a semi-custom 1911 out there. I may get another someday. Also, checkout fusionfirearms.com. Bob Serva is the guy who was behind the Dan Wesson CBOB (and I'm not sure what other models) before he went on his own to start Fusion Firearms.

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    I got one, finally had a chance to shoot it one mag and locked up. Only able to move the slide about 1/4 inch.There cust. service is best through email, sent for repair waiting return.Other than that fit and finish are very nice, I have heard there repair service is top notch.

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    I love mine.

    I did have an issue (within the first 80 rds) where it failed to fire and would only fire on ammo with notoriously soft primers. Compared the primer strike to that of my Glock and the DW strikes looked super weak.

    Turned out to be a firing pin issue that DW sorted in less than a week and they picked up overnight shipping both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hondaman View Post
    I got one, finally had a chance to shoot it one mag and locked up. Only able to move the slide about 1/4 inch.There cust. service is best through email, sent for repair waiting return.Other than that fit and finish are very nice, I have heard there repair service is top notch.
    Don't let this get you down too much. I have a Pre CZ Dan Wesson Patriot Expert in stainless steel. It also locked up after a few mags. The galling was bad enough that I had to use a rubber mallet to separate the slide from the frame. I used some Mothers Aluminum Polish to lap the slide and frame (just racked it a few times), cleaned it, and then started using FP-10 as a lube, since it is specifically made to prevent galling. I never had another problem with this.

    That being said, I think that the Patriot is almost as nice as my Les Baer TRS, and a step above the other 1911's that I own or have owned. It is now a very accurate and reliable 1911. It came with a factory shot target, I can't remember the spec's off hand. I have used it for IDPA and IPSC matches and have a few thousand rounds through it. It would still be my "go to gun" for competition if I did not have a new obsession for the Les Baer.

    I do not have the CBOB, but I recently handled one and it was very well put together. I have this on my short list of "need to have's".

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