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    Car or truck gun??

    Does anyone have a dedicated car or truck gun? Read a story last year about how undercover cops doing "buy and bust" drug deals used a DAO Ruger SP101 in 357 that was stashed for easy access so the plain-clothes officer did NOT have to go for his secreted duty weapon if the transaction went violent. Made me think..maybe not a bad idea and a gun like that Ruger would fit the bill. Kinda like going for the BUG FIRST. Any thoughts???
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    Well, some folks consider a "car gun" to be a shoulder weapon for if things really get bad.

    Its kind of difficult to do now, with the way cars are designed these days, but when I was on the road a lot of us strapped an old holster of some sort around the steering column, so it was underneath and the pistol (I used the issue 2.5" M-66) was instantly accessible to either hand. Keep in mind, that was in the 70s and 80s...

    Your question has many facets. Are you trying to justify a cheaper gun to keep in your ride? No justification needed; as long as it is reliable, the cheaper the better, I say (I use a Glock 17 these days for this purpose).

    Are you looking for advice on which one? YOU gotta decide that, taking into consideration where and how you're going to position it, etc.

    There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth by some folks over the practice of keeping a ready gun in your ride at all times. Folks who buy into this will breathlessly admonish you that it might get stolen, and somebody might get shot with it. Yup, that could happen. Doodoo occurs....

    But remember this. The whole idea is to have the gun INSTANTLY to hand. In the glove box or center console compartment may as well be on the moon if you need the gun RIGHT NOW.

    The only limits on how to accomplish all of this is... your imagination. ;)

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    Like the steering column idea. As a retired LEO(and 2 state CCW holder + my retired ID card ala H.R.218)I ALWAYS carry,usually one of my Glocks...BUT getting to the weapon on my person while seat belted in my car or pick-up could be a REAL problem. A dedicated and well-positioned handgun might be the difference in a carjack or other vehicle centered encounter. I will admit it is something of an excuse for another handgun purchase....but even a used Model 10 Smith might fit the bill without breaking the bank!
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    My aunt and uncle used to be freinds with acouple who where very very wealthy. There was a square cut out in the wood grain dash. Really really nice job when you pushed the button under the cut out a tray would pop out and lock in place with a 38 ready to go. As LSP stated only limit is your imagination and wallet.

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    Two things to consider: should you ever be in an accident, if it is one that does not result in an ambulance ride, make sure you have something to conceal the gun in while waiting for a ride or the wrecker. If the accident involves you being transported for medical help you might want to consider a firearm that would be easily cleared/made-safe by some one not too familiar with firearms. My luck would have me survive the wreck but shot by some do-gooder bystander type.

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    I'm interested in this as well. The console, backpack, glove box, on my person, are all too slow to deploy. I would love a way to keep a concealed pistol in the car, that is actually practical for a quick access/car jack situation.

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    I suggest Summit Gun Broker Firearms, Guns, Rifles. Grain Valley, Missouri.. He always has some used Glocks or Smiths or Rugers...that would be excellent car/truck guns. Just saw some nice Beretta 96s there. The prices are very good on some of his stuff. Probably where I will buy mine.
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    Personally I don't want to be separated from my weapon, I want it on me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSP972 View Post
    There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth by some folks over the practice of keeping a ready gun in your ride at all times. Folks who buy into this will breathlessly admonish you that it might get stolen, and somebody might get shot with it. Yup, that could happen. Doodoo occurs....
    Count me as one of "those folks."

    Old Grunt - obviously, you are a vet like me...and like me, you were doubtlessly trained that YOU are responsible for the security of your weapon. Woe be it to the trooper that allows his weapon to fall into the wrong hands... A firearm should either be on your body, or in a safe...period. Only exception is for a short trip into a "gun free zone" when you don't have much of a (legal) choice.

    Best compromise to have a handgun easily accessible in a vehicle is to take your regular carry piece out of its normal holster, and place it into a vehicle-mounted holster.

    Here is a nice option - https://store.forestandfield.com/ind...roducts_id=181

    Reverse the process before you exit your vehicle.

    Another option is an ankle holster for a BUG, which may be easier to access while seated in a vehicle. Or, you could opt for a shoulder holster.

    Just say NO to habitually leaving a weapon in an unattended vehicle.
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    I have a dedicated truck gun. It is a semi auto of the Glock persuasion. I will also be installing a dedicated truck long gun once I get the scabbard built.

    As always I hope to never need either, but burying my head in the sand is not my normal, so I am planning on being prepared.

    To me, it is just like having a tow strap, jumper cables, a tool kit, a spare tire, extra wiper fluid, ATF fluid and the like. Most of the time, it is dead weight, but when you need it...

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    I have a car gun. A Beretta 21 in .25acp in a small little compartment on my dash.
    1: it's small and hard to find if you don't know it's there
    2: if it gets stolen, I'm not out much money. Less than $50 in it.
    3: I can drop it into a pocket if I need to, it carries easy and safe.
    4: It's enough for across the car shooting and better than bad language. I keep Winchester Expanding point in it.

    If you haven't already, read this thread:

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ar-pistol.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    Woe be it to the trooper that allows his weapon to fall into the wrong hands...

    I was a trooper for 28.5 years, and had my unit burglarized twice- one a fully marked unit, the other an un-marked. Weapons were taken each time; one a department-owned, the other personally owned.

    They didn't stand me against a wall and offer me a blindfold and cigarette. In fact, they just gave me some new stuff and fixed my car...

    You think its a bad practice, fine. You're free to exercise that conviction.

    But spare us the sanctimonious Chicken Little comments, if you please...

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    Short answer, "No!"

    I guess for those who are cops, an extra gun tucked away in the vehicle may be just the ticket (kind of a pun).

    I'm not a cop, and I want my firearm on my person. I'm with those who do not like leaving weapons in the car. If I want a BUG (seldom have one), then that would also be on my person.

    Here in Central Florida, we've had a half-a-dozen cop cars broken into and weapons stolen out of them...the BG's know that they are there and have no problem getting them.

    I have, on rare occasions, left a sidearm in the vehicle, but it was in a CoM safe and not easy to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper View Post
    Personally I don't want to be separated from my weapon, I want it on me!
    Agreed. We're talking about another piece, one that stays in the vehicle at all times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSP972 View Post
    I was a trooper for 28.5 years, and had my unit burglarized twice- one a fully marked unit, the other an un-marked. Weapons were taken each time; one a department-owned, the other personally owned.

    They didn't stand me against a wall and offer me a blindfold and cigarette. In fact, they just gave me some new stuff and fixed my car...

    You think its a bad practice, fine. You're free to exercise that conviction.

    But spare us the sanctimonious Chicken Little comments, if you please...

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    By "trooper" I was referring to a soldier...trainers often try to "steal" a basic trainee's weapon. If they succeed, many many push-ups follow for the poor trainee...

    As a (former?) police officer, I'm a bit surprised that you are so supportive of leaving a firearm in an unattended vehicle, since you know from personal experience how easy it is for them to get stolen.

    I didn't say it was a crime to leave a firearm in an unattended vehicle...but yes, I am of the opinion it is a criminally stupid thing to do. Right up there with leaving a firearm where children can access it easily.

    Certainly, you are free to do as you wish. I am offering my opinions for those who are interested in reading them. If you find them "sanctimonious" it is only because you are reading them that way.

    Besides, the alternatives I listed previously make it really unnecessary to leave a separate handgun in a vehicle. There are better, safer options.

    I've said all I will say on this subject - carry on.
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