New 45 Convert With Questions
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July 7th, 2009 03:18 PM
New 45 Convert With Questions
Had opportnity to shoot several 45's on vacation and came home with one! I am now a beleiver in shootabiliity, pointability, accuracy, and all the hype which is fact for me. Absolutely love it...
My new addition is a full size Springfield 1911-A1, 8 rd mag, great trigger, and night sights.
Now I have some questions for you 45 knowledgable folks:
1911 mags are pretty much standard acroos the board right? any recs for back up mags?
What kind of ammo for SD do you rec?
Does fmj over penetrate or is it ok for SD?
Is there a location for field stripping, take down and reassembly instructions?
Any other hints or personal suggestions you would like to share I am willing to listen and learn... thanks.
July 7th, 2009 03:18 PM
July 7th, 2009 03:33 PM
I personnally like Wilson Combat mags. Either the 47d or the new EMT mags. But truth be told the only 1911 mag I ever had problems with was a Chip Mccormick shooting star mag. It could have been the one bad magazine I don't know. I use to use nothing but Federal Hydro Shock 230 grain bullets for years. however with the ammo situation the way it's been anything that you can find and cycles 100 % in my gun I would take. The FMJ question is one a go back and forth on. If I had absolutely no "premium" hollow point ammo I could find I would use 230 FMJ and not think twice but it would not be my first choice. Even though FMJ typically overpenetrate a 45 acp FMJ round isn't going nearly as fast as say a 9mm, 40 s&w, or 357 sig bullet would. I would know what ws behind what I wanted to shoot but would feel more comfortable than if I was using FMJ in one of the other calibers I mentioned. Bear in mind non of this is gospel just my humble opinions.
I almost forgot your knew Springfield should have come with instructons on disassembly and reassembly. If not you could probably go to Springfields website fo ron line instructions or to have them mail yo a copy.
The only real "hint" I know about a 1911 is keep it cleaned, lubed, and don't limp wrist shooting it.
July 7th, 2009 03:36 PM
Congrats on your 1911. It seems everyone makes a mag for the 1911. A lot of people swear by Wilson Combat magazines, but you will pay for them. For range mags. I use Chip McCormick mags. Carry with my factory mags. when I carry it.
I like the Federal HST 230 gr +P for a defensive load in it. They feed reliably from my gun and expansion is very good in them.
I don't think over penetration will be a problem with FM ammo, but why risk it, a good HP will almost eliminate the problem.
Look here for cleaning instructions for it, I'm sure you'll find what your looking for:
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July 7th, 2009 04:12 PM
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July 7th, 2009 04:31 PM
I used to carry a 1911 for work and personal Concealed Carry. I used both the Sig Arms magazines, and Chip McCormicks. I have never had a problem with any of them.
I always used Speer Gold Dot 230 grn +P ammo for defense, and if I start carrying a .45 ever again, then that will still be my first choice.
I'm also selling off my old mags so PM me, and we can work out a mutually beneficial deal.
July 7th, 2009 04:45 PM
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July 7th, 2009 05:22 PM
Congratulations on your new 1911, be careful because they tend to multiply.
FMJ: .45acp is the only caliber I shoot where I'd be comfortable carrying fmj ammo for defensive use. Yes, quality HP ammo expands but a 230gr slug is nothing to laugh at. I normally only one spare mag, when I do carry a second spare that mag is loaded with fmj.
My personal favorites in carry ammo are: Remington Golden Saber (bonded if you can find it), Federal Hydra-Shok, Double Tap Gold Dot, or the new Winchester PDX-1 bonded. I've had some bullet setback issues with Speer Gold Dots so I no longer use them.
230gr. standard pressure ammo is the only load I'll carry. Some folks prefer 185gr. +P or even 230gr. +P but the original works great for my needs.
Are all 1911 mags equal? NO
There are several quality mag makers out there. IMO the very best full size mags are Wilson Combat #47D (8 round) or #47 (7 round). Also worthy of carry are: Mec-Gar, ACT, Chip McCormick PowerMags, and a few others.
Avoid ProMag, USA mags and Triple K mags like the plague - I won't even use them as range mags. The Springfield Armory or Colt mags that are shipped with new guns make great range mags.
Also, stock up on Wolff mag and recoil springs. They don't cost much but they're the best of the best.
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Last edited by maclean3; July 7th, 2009 at 05:26 PM.
July 7th, 2009 05:40 PM
+1 on Wilson Mags
You get a crap load of info off of youtube. Not everyone is knowledgible (well, they think they are) but there is plenty of stuff on field stripping and reassembly.
Good luck with your new 1911.
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July 7th, 2009 06:14 PM
Don't buy cheap mags.
Shoot 230 grain JHPs, whatever you can find that feeds 100% in your pistol. If no JHPs are available, or feed 100%, shoot FMJ. Think of it this way. If you were in mortal danger from a Rhino, would you carry a 150 grain 300 Win Mag or a much slower 500 grain 458 Win Mag? Why would be facing a two legged animal be any different? Go with heavy bullets and hit deep. Penetration is paramount over expansion or energy.
Overpenetration is 0.1% as dangerous as missing. Once you never-ever miss, then worry about not overpenetrating.
I no longer own a 1911, but an XD. I REALLY like the Double Tap 230 grain Gold Dot loads. It's a 230 grain Gold Dot hollow point at about 1000 feet per second. It's plenty accurate, feeds well in my pistol, and MUST pack quite a whallop on impact.
Enjoy your 1911. It's not a classic for just no reason.
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July 7th, 2009 06:19 PM
I like Cor-Bon DPX 185gr +P, but the most important thing is to get something that feeds reliably in your gun. Run at least 50 rounds of whatever SD ammo you choose through it before carrying it.
Originally Posted by cmb
July 7th, 2009 07:26 PM
Honestly, all Safe triggers and double/single transitions aside, the single action pull of a 45 is the best trigger around, you will love it and good luck, enjoy!
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July 7th, 2009 07:56 PM
+1 on Wilson mags. They remain reliable forever. I have some that are over 20 years old and they function like new. I've never had to replace the springs, which still compress and expand perfectly.
As for ammo, some FMJ bullets have flat tips, this may reduce the overpenetration risk, just make sure they feed properly if you use them.
Regarding disassembly, I seem to remember Wilson Combat sold videos on disassembling/cleaning/lubing firearms and I'm sure he made one for the 1911.
Check his site at wilsoncombat.com.
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July 7th, 2009 09:46 PM
I've only used Wilson and Colt mags and never had a problem. I also shoot 230 gr. JHP or FMJ. I prefer the JHP's, but wouldn't hesitate to use FMJ if that's what I had. My former agency approved the use of 230gr. FMJ as a duty load. They didn't approve FMJ in any other caliber but 45ACP.
Congrats on the new pistola....
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July 7th, 2009 11:31 PM
Get rid of the full length guide rod. Wilson and McCormick mags are the best.
Choose a factory self defense load, make sure it feeds well and is accurate.
Win Ranger T +P
Speer Gold Dot
and many more.............
The 1911 is a great gun. But it is not a great beginners gun. If this is your first, learn all you can. Get some considerable trigger time before you rely on it for self defense. The 1911 also requires more TLC and attention than any other gun. But properly tuned and maintained the 1911 is one of the best fighting handguns ever made.
July 8th, 2009 12:29 AM
I carry Federal HST 230+P in my 45's
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