Are Kel Tecs and Bersas any good?

Are Kel Tecs and Bersas any good?

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    Are Kel Tecs and Bersas any good?

    I thinking about getting a keltec or a Bersa. My dad doesn't trust the quality of these guns though and thinks I shouldn't bother. What is your opinion on these guns?
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    They are what I would describe as second tier pistols. They generally work well enough, but, they are not as refined as some other brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranburr View Post
    They are what I would describe as second tier pistols. They generally work well enough, but, they are not as refined as some other brands.
    How long do you think they would last? My dad said that I should go ahead and invest in a good pistol because it will last my whole life and probably my children's.

    What pocket pistol would you buy?
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    If you're planning on a gun you can keep forever and even pass down, skip them. Personally, if I was going to trust my life to a gun (and of course I do every day), i wouldn't choose either of those either.

    Now if you just want a cheap gun for the range, go for it.

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    I consider them good guns. Most folks here that have them will tell you they like them and carry them regularly. As long as they function, I would carry either of them. My son carries a Bersa 380 CC on a regular basis and has never had a malfunction of any kind.
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    I have a Bersa subcompact in 9 mil.

    It's fun to shoot, it's accurate, but it's not the best gun out there.

    Double the price of a Bersa, and you can buy a Sig.
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    I have owned a Keltec P32 and a P3AT and both pistols were reliable to a fault. I have no experience with the Bersa handguns, but I have heard good things about them. If brand names are that important, then the Ruger LCP .380 is a near clone of the Keltec P3AT and reliable as well. If you are wanting an heirloom to pass down, then perhaps a Glock 26 or a Sig P239 in 9mm would be the ticket for you. JMHO.
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    Judging by what I have heard and read, they are good guns that work.



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    Get a Glock :)

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    Some people swear by Kel-Tecs and others have had disappointing results. I was one of the latter. They have very good and prompt customer service and parts/accessories are easy to find and inexpensive.

    Bersas are one of the best values for the money out there, IMO. I have a Bersa 380cc that, while not the most polished gun compared to say a SIG, it goes bang each and every time. In fact I'm looking at getting a UC9 in the near future.
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    I don't really care about getting an heirloom, but I don't want something that I'm gonna have to replace two months later or won't work when I need it. Has the LCP had any problems since the initial recall?

    I'm also unsure about polymer, which is why I'm leaning towards a bersa out of those mentioned, not because I don't think it's durable but because a subcompact will already be super light :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRTCP88 View Post
    I don't really care about getting an heirloom, but I don't want something that I'm gonna have to replace two months later or won't work when I need it. Has the LCP had any problems since the initial recall?

    I'm also unsure about polymer, which is why I'm leaning towards a bersa out of those mentioned, not because I don't think it's durable but because a subcompact will already be super light :P)
    I'd recommend a Bersa .380 or an LCP, as I own both. There is someone on this site selling an LCP for a decent price right now.

    My LCP had to go back for a recall, but it's been absolutely great ever since. It's a good pocket pistol if that's what you're looking for. The Bersa is a little too big for pocket carry,IMO, as it's basically a PPK clone.
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    I really have to laugh when people say a Kel-Tec is a "second tier gun". There are thousands upon thousands of P32's & P3AT's out there. How many have had any issues at all other than an FTF (simple fix)? Maybe 1%?

    There were thousands and thousands of S&W 5946 & 6946 made. Know how many went back for cracked frames? HUGE numbers. My Dept. alone sent many back. Thousands and thousands of brand new Ruger LCP's were recalled for a condition which should NEVER happen in todays gun mfg. Both Ruger and S&W are considered "top tier" gun brands.

    Would I expect a Kel-Tec to last 100,000 rounds as I would from any of my Sig Sauer's or Kimbers? No, but at 1/3 the price, why would I. I would expect it to go bang after many thousand rounds and I am sure it will.

    It all depends on how many zillions of rounds you want to throw downrange, but for the average owner, you will never shoot more than your gun's life expectency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EW3 View Post
    Some people swear by Kel-Tecs and others have had disappointing results. I was one of the latter. They have very good and prompt customer service and parts/accessories are easy to find and inexpensive.

    Bersas are one of the best values for the money out there, IMO. I have a Bersa 380cc that, while not the most polished gun compared to say a SIG, it goes bang each and every time. In fact I'm looking at getting a UC9 in the near future.
    I could not agree more with your statments. Kel Tecs are hit and miss and Bersa's are one of the most underated and best values on the market. Bersa's are inexpesive because they are made in South America and Kel Tec's are inexpensive because that are not fitted and finished very well and it shows with a lot of there handguns. They would be good guns if KT would take some extra time fitting and finishing the internals to a higher degree. Sure the extra man hours would drive the cost up some but IMO it would be worth it because their designs are innovative and well thoughout generally but the execution leaves alot to be desired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EW3 View Post
    I'd recommend a Bersa .380 or an LCP, as I own both. There is someone on this site selling an LCP for a decent price right now.

    My LCP had to go back for a recall, but it's been absolutely great ever since. It's a good pocket pistol if that's what you're looking for. The Bersa is a little too big for pocket carry,IMO, as it's basically a PPK clone.
    Actually I'm leaning towards IWB carry, but I want as small a gun as I can get. Bersa's are as big as I would go.

    Anyone know what the difference in size is between the Bersa 380 and Bersa 9mmUC?
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    I have a PF9. Light and easy to conceal. I am impressed with the accuracy. Goes bang each time. It is not finished like my Smiths or Colt but for the money a decent gun. I did a "fluff and buff" and that helped the comfort factor. It is not a range gun that is a lot of fun to shoot long time but for $300. or so it is hard to beat.
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