Goober Plays With the 1911
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I'm trying out a Springfield Armory Stainless Steel GI .45 . I'm not really a big 1911 ...
March 24th, 2006 01:17 AM
Goober Plays With the 1911
A mini range trip with a mini report.
I'm trying out a Springfield Armory Stainless Steel GI .45. I'm not really a big 1911 guy and don't think I ever will be, but I like classic guns even if they're not my main thing. Course by classic drool inducing guns I usually think of WW2 rifles and old S&W revolvers, but the 1911 is a classic design too.
This isn't the greatest 1911 out there, but it's not supposed to be. It's as if Rossi in their heyday had made a 1911: it's Brazilian and it works. It's a little rough. I've seen rougher. I've also seen much better. Heck I've gotten so lucky as to shoot much better.
But for function I can't knock it. It spat 100 rounds of 230 grain ball at trembling paper as well as anything. And even though this gun has a few rough spots and even a scratch or two on it that I think came from the factory, replace those tacky grips with the good ones from the parts bin and suddenly it looks much nicer than it has any right to.
I had to order some hardware to change the grips with, plus my friend said he'd mail me his magazines so I could at least use them. That was nice of him he didn't have to do that. I thought it all looked rather nice.
Shooting one econobox of .45 ball is hardly a good test of a firearm, but it's not something I want for serious social work. It's strictly because it's there. Not everything has to be plug ugly and all business. It's okay to have a little fun every once in a while.
Slide to frame matchup isn't exactly pristine but in my extremely limited knowledge, I'd call it pretty good for a gun at this price point. I've noted that on this model a lot of people complain their barrel bushings are way off center or canted a little bit and this one's pretty straight. The slide stop is just awful, it works like it should but to discuss its ergonomics is to discuss the external safety on a Glock: you're talking about something that ain't there. Luckily in actual usage, the slide stop doesn't seem to come up too often unless there is something I don't know yet. From what I know you aren't even supposed to close a slide shut on an empty chamber on a 1911 except for a function check.
It shoots. Pull trigger go bang. I have to admit despite all this, it's a viable weapon or so it seems thus far. I have no plans to carry it. Lubing it every 20 minutes would drive me bonkers for one thing.
Take down and reassembly was slightly better the second time around. It was a circus the first time. I now know the real reason the military went to the M9.
I have to admit though, if I were used to this style pistol and knew more about it and how to work on it, I could see having something like this locked in a car, stashed in a go bag, or just buying it for the sake of gutting it and screwing it up by pretending I was a gunsmith.
Here's a fundamentally dishonest picture. I threw away the target I shot with the 1911 because I am an idiot, I used this one just because I like to pretend I can take good pictures sometimes (I can't). I kept this one from a while back because I liked the strangely positioned large holes I shot in it. I had one that looked like a smiley face too once but never did get a picture of it.
But anyway I think this is a good gun overall and probably the right 1911 for me. Like I said, not everything is for killing mutants. Having something because it's fun to play with and looks cooler than it should is okay too.
March 24th, 2006 01:17 AM
March 24th, 2006 06:02 AM
That is a nice looking 1911. You also have good taste in mags, Wilson Combat I see....
(the target looks like .22 holes though)
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March 24th, 2006 06:49 AM
not a bad review ..
But why were you lubing it every 20 mins?
I lube mine once and its good for weeks even shooting and i use the ohhh no he gonna say it ..
Sometimes Slide-glide for carry but if you have to keep relubing it that much your not lubing it right..
As for letting slide down on a empty chamber its ok to do as long as you ride it down and don't let it slam home ..
Also don't bother with slide stop for anything else than letting it lock slide open thats all its there for ..
To reload sling-shoot the slide grab it by rear sight tug back let it fly to load the new mag.
As for price i think the Springers are one of the best values out there right now granted there not a wilson nor ed brown but then again they don't have a 1900$+ price tag.
As to slide to frame fit a little slop is ok i don't like mine super tight they run better a little loose.
As my uncle told me in the Army over in vietnam when you chose your 1911 you went up and shook them which every one rattled the most and shoot decent was what you carried because you knew it was gonna run not matter what..
March 24th, 2006 07:44 AM
Nice looking , especially with those grips. I only lube my 1911 during the cleaning process.
"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson
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March 24th, 2006 08:32 AM
Nice gun....good report.
I have always liked the looks of the classic .45 S/A semi-auto but never owned one. When I did buy...of course it was the para LDA because of such a smooth D/A trigger, which I will never give up...
March 24th, 2006 08:54 AM
If it functions well, I guess that's what counts. Looks like a Hollywood gun with those grips (no offense to rocky).
You aren't kidding, Bud, are you? Never thought of that, but I suppose it's lubricant. Did you settle on this through some sort of informal testing, of just have experience with it?
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March 24th, 2006 10:00 AM
Euc, its stainless, man. The EASIEST surface to mod, and polish to factory! If you ever decide to, I've got an Ed Brown grip-safety fitting jig (.250 radius, IIRC) that I'll give to you. (Go Dremel, go Dremel, go! ) A Wilson extended safety is nice too..... I usually cut the outer three grooves off, to slim it down some.
Any cutting or grinding you do (or even the scratch) can be taken out with a 3M green pad, maybe some 400 grit wet/dry, if you need to be a bit smoother. They're like Chevy Novas: 1911s aren't just for shootin', they're for workin' on!
March 24th, 2006 12:46 PM
Good pics and write-up Euc - not a bad piece at all, all things considered.
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March 24th, 2006 12:59 PM
March 24th, 2006 01:40 PM
welcome to the dark side Euc. you should find it very enjoyable. I have at least. Only pistol I have had that wasn't a 1911 was a sig 220. great gun but got an offer i couldn't refuse, so it had to go.
March 24th, 2006 04:35 PM
March 24th, 2006 04:47 PM
Great test report, Now you just have to Admit that 1911s are the superior Firearm .. Please write 100 times, I will always own a 1911....
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March 24th, 2006 05:05 PM
In defense of the Springfield 1911. No, you don't have all the bells and whistles that you would get with a 1500 to 2,000 gun, but what you have is a Springfield firearm legendary in it production of the pistol. Furthermore, the slide is the only made in Brazil everything else to my knowledge is American. I would not regulate a weapon as such to just a car piece or a paper weight.
The 1911 was designed as a combat pistol, yeah it rattles and seems a little lose, but you don't want tight tolerances when you may have to subject the weapon to sand, mud and etc. The milspec model is the basic model and that is what I have. The Wilson mags are excellent the pistol is excellent, and I think I would have to rank it far more than what you have. I suggest that you go on some of the 1911 sites and really research the weapon because when you think historic firearms none have continued to serve as long a the 1911. However, a decent article but a little off on really speaking to quality of firearms that Springfield produces.
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March 24th, 2006 05:07 PM
Now, I bet when you squeeze off the first round you had nice historic feeling rush through your veins. I know you did because every guy that purchases or shoots a 1911 gets it. You will buy another one.
Listen, Think and React.....Nuff Said.....
March 24th, 2006 05:10 PM
The receivers are forged by IMBEL also.
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