August 24th, 2009 12:47 PM
The weight of the MK9 makes it entirely different from its polymer counterparts.
August 25th, 2009 06:26 AM
Good advice. My wife is partial to the SR9 and the 9 mm Baby Eagle sub-compact. Both have slimmer grips for smaller hands and shoot relatively comfortably.
Originally Posted by speak2u
The hand of the aggressor is stayed by strength and strength alone!--Dwight D. Eisenhower
August 25th, 2009 12:16 PM
+1 on letting her try and decide.
If you don't already, get a good gun safe - I have a GunVault (with pushbuttons - I don't trust the biometric fingerprint reader version) to keep the handguns away from the kids.
I keep my flashlight holster on top of the safe - it goes on my belt only after the safe door is closed. If my light is on my belt, I know the door is locked.
As to your list - Glock 26 and XD 9 SC are good. The G26 has a lower bore axis, and may therefore have less muzzle flip for her. The XD has the grip safety, which is both good and bad. Of the two, I like the G26 better - some folks have reported not being able to engage the grip safety on the XD in certain circumstances. Just my preference for simpler guns - less to go wrong.
The PPS has the weird mag release in the trigger guard - different than most guns, which means more training. It is thin, but not much smaller than my Glock 19.
I would proceed with extreme caution on the polymer Kahrs. Do a search.
The more good folks carry guns, the fewer shots the crazies can get off.
Glock 30, 19, 26; Ruger SP101, LCR, LCP (2), Mini 14; Marlin 336 .30-30; Mossberg 500
August 25th, 2009 12:23 PM
The "best" gun is the one YOU like, not anyone else. It will be a compromise of:
1. Fit - It should fit in your hand like you were born with it there.
2. Reliability - It should go BANG about 99.8% of the time you pull the trigger.
3. Accuracy - In YOUR hand. It's how well YOU shoot it.
4. Concealability - It should be comfortable enough to wear and easy enough to conceal so you won't leave it laying on the dresser at home.
5. Cost - You don't want to scrimp on your "life protector" weapon, but you probably don't need a $1,000 Kimber, either.
All that being said, the XD9SC gets my vote.
August 25th, 2009 01:07 PM
Why would carrying the gun with an empty chamber rule out a 1911 variant? It would eliminate the Kahr from my list because of the strange way they have to be chambered - either off the slide stop or by slingshotting the slide. This isn't an issue for me since I carry with a loaded chamber. I've gotten in the habit of slingshotting mine when I chamber a round just to get used to it so it will be second nature.
Originally Posted by Bowdenknxvll
Other than that Kahr makes a fine and almost disturbingly accurate weapon.
That said, I agree with the ones who say to let her decide. Take her to the gun store and work with a good trustworthy salesperson. A lot of this will be determined by what fits her hand. Renting an example of each weapon would be an even better idea if you can pare the list down to two or three guns (trying to save you some rental fees here).
Also, add a J-frame Smith and Wesson to the list.
August 26th, 2009 04:26 AM
Of the five choices you listed, I would go with the XD9sc.
"I've run across shooting after shooting where the defender shot a violent aggressor with a .380 and did little to immediately stop his depredations. A good hollow point load in 9mm or .38 Special will, historically, end lethal assaults more quickly."
~ Massad Ayoob
August 26th, 2009 04:38 AM
I like the kahr choice for a everyday
everywhere carry gun. Very important to be
as safe as possible around the kids of course
but in most defense situations not having a round in
the chamber could be a really bad thing.
Things happen a lot faster than some people think if you
do need to fire a weapon in self defense.
August 26th, 2009 05:01 AM
All of those choices in your list would be more than adequate I suspect. Although I have no experience with the CZ, it does have a lot of devoted fans.
My personal fav would be the XD9sc since I own one, but the G-26 is equally interchangeable as far as I'm concerned.
I've had a G-23 for 11 or 12 years, so I have no problems with Glocks. They are great. But I've really liked the XD since I got it.
As you and she already know, she will have to be the best and ultimate judge on what's best for her.
I'm just glad she is joining the ranks!
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
August 26th, 2009 11:14 AM
+1 on letting her choose. I ended up taking my wife to a local gun show where there were hundreds of guns for her to handle. Low and behold she picked a Ruger SP101 3". After reading up on it she did a mighty fine job picking out a winner. Now, I know you're just looking at autos, but make sure your wife doesn't have any difficulty racking the slide, especially if you're both set on carrying with the chamber empty. The downside with revolvers is that they aren't the easiest to hit with (snubbies especially) unless you practice and you do feel the recoil more than in the same sized auto with similar powered ammo.
Renting is a good idea to try before you buy.
Mine: Glock 36............Wife's: Ruger SP101 3"
-------Ruger SR9....................Ruger SR9c
-------S&W SW99 .45.............Charter Arms Undercover
- Personal gun & holster designs/reviews.
August 26th, 2009 09:25 PM
Bingo! Otherwise your just buying guns for yourself
Originally Posted by Rugergirl
"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking" - George S. Patton.
August 27th, 2009 01:58 AM
Hmmm... what's strange about either of those? And how many other ways can you chamber a round?
Originally Posted by SC Tiger
August 27th, 2009 02:11 AM
XD .45, Glock 23, Mossberg 590A, M&P 15 Rossi 641, RIA 1911
If You Want To Know The Mind Of A Man Listen To His Words
August 27th, 2009 09:08 AM
Kahr PM9s aren't very tolerant of "riding the slide" when you chamber a round. If you even think about riding the slide they won't go into battery (most of them anyway) on the first round of a full mag. If you come off the slide stop you won't have any problems. Not a big deal unless you plan to carry with an empty chamber.
Originally Posted by gasmitty
August 27th, 2009 09:45 AM
My wife loves her Kahr K9. The steel frame really sucks up the recoil.
August 27th, 2009 10:02 AM
Good list to start with though I would also consider the 1911 platform in 9mm. I would NOT carry without it chambered. I do not feel comfortable trying to draw and shoot and hit my target in the 1.5-2.0 sec range while trying to chamber a round. Maybe it can be done but probably not by me.
(I read of an incident where a fellow carried a glock, not chambered, was being mugged, drew, pulled trigger, no bang, got shot by perp, lived & sued Glock.)
I have young children, more than average, and while we need to be cautious of firearm safety we need not put ourselves or them in an even more dangerous situation. You can add a manual safety to a Glock (approx. $150), and I would think an XD. You could also get the NY trigger which takes it to 7.5 lbs. Those two additions add an extra level of securtiy to a DAO pistol. Remember a gun will not go off unless the trigger is pulled, they have internal safeties to prevent this...
There are also higher security holsters with thumb break retention and those made of kydex that are stiffer so your kids could not bump the gun out of the holster or even bump the trigger like they might could in soft leather. I recommend to carry chambered and add these more comforting levels of security.
Another incident I have thought about and the reason why I do not tuck my polo shirt in when not necessary is accessing my IWB pistol with one hand. I try to keep my family to my weak side so i can push them away, pick up a child or two, whatever and draw with my strong side. Can you draw and rack one handed?
Things to consider and think through, have fun shooting guns and let her decide what she likes and enjoy buying for her.
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