Used S&W 642-1 doesn't have +P on barrel?

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    Used S&W 642-1 doesn't have +P on barrel?

    I bought a used 642 last week and when I asked the store owner why it did not have the +P on the barrel, he told me not to worry...it was rated for +P ammo, it just wasn't marked. The serial # is CCD2XXX, and it does not have the external lock if this helps.

    I looked at the photo's on S&W's website and noticed the 642's pictured there have +P on the barrel next to the .38 S&W spl.

    Is anyone aware if the earlier versions were +P rated and just not marked or do I have a snubbie just good for only shooting standard .38's?
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    I think all the 642's were capable of firing +P's... I would use std. power .38's for the range and only fire a cylinder or two of +P's each range session... You probably wouldn't want to fire too many more in one session anyway... Then carry +P's for your SD loads...
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    Call S&W and ask. My first thought, no, don't do it. If it is not marked, don't do it. Maybe a call to S&W with the serial number will clear up 100%.
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    Found this on the Charter Arms FAQ's. Anyone else ever hear of this?

    Q. Can I shoot +P in my .38 revolver?
    A.Charter .38's are among the smallest revolvers in this caliber. Yes they can handle +P but we do not recommend it for the following reasons:

    +P ammo requires a four-inch minimum barrel to burn the extra powder. Therefore, in a two-inch barrel the extra powder is burned after the bullet leaves the barrel creating more recoil and making it harder to come back to target.

    We recommend a standard velocity load and practice with round nose lead rounds which are the least expensive. When you load for protection, use a jacketed or hollow point in the same grain you practice with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanis View Post
    Call S&W and ask. My first thought, no, don't do it. If it is not marked, don't do it. Maybe a call to S&W with the serial number will clear up 100%.
    This sounds like the best way to know for sure.

    You might want to try e-mailing them. It takes a long time to get through on the phone.
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    Thanks for your suggestions, I just sent an email to S&W and will see what type of reply I get.
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    I inspected a 642 that was manufactured without having the +P on the barrel. I also own a 642 that is stamped with the +P. It appeared to me that the revolver cylinder were made of different metals. I would have asked the gun store owner to put his remarks in writing about that gun being able to handle the +P rounds. You're doing the right thing by contacting S&W and getting it in writing.
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    Safe, or sorry? Give them a call, you may have to wait for a while for an email response.
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    Good luck!
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    My 60-7 does not say +P on it either but I know they were rated from the factroy for it. There is a chart somewhere......

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    I got a reply back this morning from Smith & Wesson informing me my 642 is + P rated. It was manufactured in 1997, before they started stamping the + P on the barrel.
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    I curious to see what S/W say, can you keep updated.
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    Glad to hear you got such a quick response.....
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    Save the email for your records.

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    I recently had the same revolver and I was told prior to stamping +p on the barrel a plain 642 was 38sp only and the 642-1 (or any model thereafter) was +p rated. Mine shot Speer 135gr Gold Dot short barrel loads to perfect POA at 10 yards in about a 2-3in group, great load.

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