Snubby recoil..38 spl. +P vs. .357 mag.=??

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    Snubby recoil..38 spl. +P vs. .357 mag.=??

    I've fired many .38 spl. and .38 spl.+P from a .38 spl. revolver and have felt little difference in recoil. My question...is there any significant difference in recoil between the .38 spl. +P and the .357 mag. when fired from a .357 revolver. If so, how much? I'll find out for myself soon, just wanted to know what to expect. Thanks.
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    I tried both loads out of an SP-101, and there wasn't as much difference as I expected. Some, but not much.

    I guess it would depend on the individual loads, though.

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    My question...is there any significant difference in recoil between the .38 spl. +P and the .357 mag. when fired from a .357 revolver.
    Yes. I've shot only a couple cylinders worth of .357 through my Taurus 605. It's painful.

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    I have to agree with Grady regarding the SP101. I thought the 357 would have a much heavier recoil, it was definitely more than the +P but not as bad as I was expecting. I think if you shoot 357 out of a S&W J frame it could be a whole different experience.

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    Big difference with full house 357s in J frame. Not so bad with mid load 357s like 125 gr Golden Saber.

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    Depends on the gun. With my hefty SP-101, not too much difference but definitely noticeable.
    With the S&W 340M&P that only weighs 13 ounces, BIG difference.

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    In an airweight the difference is painful. In a SS Smith it's better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theheater905 View Post
    I have to agree with Grady regarding the SP101. I thought the 357 would have a much heavier recoil, it was definitely more than the +P but not as bad as I was expecting. I think if you shoot 357 out of a S&W J frame it could be a whole different experience.
    Are you saying that there would be a lot more recoil from a S&W 60 in stainless than the SP101? If so, why?

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    Kinetic energy and The theory of relativity, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Heavy revolver and less gunpowder equals less recoil.
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    In my M&P 340CT +P ammo is MUCH less punishing!
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    Grain weight, pressure of the load and the frame of the gun all factor into the precieved recoil.
    Some people are more recoil shy than others as well.
    A full house .357 magnum load in an airweight frame is hard on the hand, not enough that I would hesitate to use if for defense, but enough that I don't really want to fire 100 rounds in a range session.
    Compare that to a heavier large frame gun like my 686+ with a 3 inch barrel, 100 rounds of .357 magnun is nothing for a day at the range.
    Another comparison is a model 36 snubbie, still a steel frame but smaller and lighter. Although it doesn't fire a .357 round there is a noticable difference in a standard pressure .38 Spl compared to a +P round, noticable for me but not unconfortable to shoot.
    A good bit of difference can be seen between 2 different guns shooting the same ammo. My Ruger GP100 with a 6 inch barrel soaks up a lot more recoil than the 3 inch 686. But again that depends on the indvidual shooter as well.
    I have a Model 29 .44 magnum that I just enjoy shooting, 100 rounds of .44 magnum ammo doesn't bother me at all, hubby is done after about 12 rounds, but he can shoot 100 rounds of .45 ACP tthrew his 1911 and it doesn't bother him.
    All in all it comes down to what you feel comfortable shooting and what you shoot best. Try a few different rounds an shoot what you feel most comfortable with and don't concentrate on recoil, if it doesn't bother you. If you are recoil shy, shoot a lighter faster load, especially with a snubbie that doesn't build as much velocity due to a short barrel, you'll get better penetration with some loads better expansion as well.
    When I carry my Model 36 snubbie I load it with Federal Nyclad rounds at 125 grains. Not at all hard to shoot and rated one of the better rounds for defense with a short barrel .38 spl. Another highly rated defense round for the .38 snubbies is the CorBon DPX 110 grain hollowpoint rounds. Either of these are a good choice for defensive round for a .357 as well.
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    .357 in snubbie ain't worth it - louder, harsher, for no more velocity or energy.

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    For me the recoil of a .357 vs. a .38 in my Ruger SP101 isn't much if any differance between .38,.38+P and .357 magnum. now my S&W M&P 340 J-frame that weighs 13oz well thats another story altogether. I have to say theres a big differance in felt recoil between ..38 and .357 in this gun BUT nowhere near the recoil some would have you believe. I have to say after owning and shooting one of these little J-frames the recoil of this gun is seriously over rated.
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    I have S&W340 PD. I can shoot this with 38spl or 38 +p for hundreds of round with out problem, but 357. I DON'T want shoot full load 357 mag more than 10 round from it. There is no fun at all. It's wrose more than S&W500.

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    Yes, there is, if out of a short barrel (2-3") .357. Out of larger one, you may not feel the difference. Easy to tell, load some 38 +p's in the gun, and some 357's. You'll know when the .357's shoot vs the 38 +p's. In mine, the .38 +p's.... go boom... the .357's go BOOM !! LOL

    Now, out of a 6" and a 7 1/2 " barrel... NO... I can tell no difference what-so-ever.

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