October 1st, 2009 03:14 PM
Interested in the Taurus Slim
So I have been carrying my glock 19 for about a month now and as wimpy as this sounds....it's kind fo starting to wear on me. It's fine when I am going to spend a lot of time sitting down but when I am up and walking around a lot it starts to get on my nerves. It's annoying enough that I have left it at home on a few occasions. (Yeah, I know, bad!) So this is why I am looking at something a bit smaller and lighter in the single stack variety.
I have it pretty much narrowed down to the Kahr CW9 or Taurus 709. I am leaning towards the taurus but would be happy to hear any other suggestions you may want to throw in. I considered the Kel-Tec PF9 but theres just something about it I don't like. It just seems "jagged" if that makes any sense.
So on to my questions. Does anyone know if pierce makes a grip entension for it? Also, for those of you that have shot them what was your general impressions? Whould you trust your life to it?
October 1st, 2009 05:42 PM
I've been happy with my Walther PPS.
Originally Posted by Rollo
I'd like to see the Taurus in person though. The price tag is attractive.
October 1st, 2009 05:44 PM
i carry an xd9sc myself.....
but from the other posts on the taurus 709 i wouldnt have it over the glock... jmho from a non glock owner
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October 1st, 2009 05:46 PM
Have you tried a diffrent carry rig? I carry my G23 all day comfortably in a Comp-tac c-tac. Love it.
Anyway I would vote for a Walther PPS or the Kahr. Just dont trust a new model pistol. I would wait a couple years on the Taurus to see how many bugs are in it.
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October 1st, 2009 07:49 PM
Im carrying in a Pure Kustoms Black Op's pro. The rig itself is very comfrotable. I think the gun is just a bit heavy. About 30.5 oz loaded with 124g hydra's. I wonder if the glock 26 would be better. It's about 5 oz's lighter. Not sure how much of a difference 5oz is as I don't have a scale and dont have anything to compare it to.
Originally Posted by wormy
October 1st, 2009 08:00 PM
No question that the Kahr is a nice gun - but at a significantly higher price. I've never shot one, but have handled one (a PM-9, not the CW-9) when I was doing my search for a carry gun in 9mm. It is a well constructed piece. If funds were unlimited, I might have bought it. But they aren't, and I looked at a number of other guns. I came to the conclusion that the 709 was a good balance of cost and function. It's well made, fits my hand as well as a small gun can, and has good balance. Bought it, and have put a couple of hundred rounds of various FMJ and HP ammo through it. I won't say it's been issue free, but I think the problems I've had (a couple of non-fires with Critical Defense and some mis-feeds with UMC) may have been ammo related rather than gun related. It's not a perfect gun, but if you read a lot, most of these small guns (including the Kahr) are problematic for some folks. I understand the 'don't want it in the first year' concern, but somebody's got to buy in those first years or the gun won't be around long. It's got a lifetime warranty, even if people have variable opinions about Taurus customer service. It suits my needs at price I can afford, and although I'm not ready yet to say I'd trust my life with it, it's been good enough that I don't at all regret buying it. YMMV.
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October 1st, 2009 08:16 PM
Kahr Fan here. Small and powerful.
October 1st, 2009 08:27 PM
I have a CW9, G26 and a G19. I have issues with my back, so it doesn't take too long for the G19 to become a burden for me to carry. The CW9 is slightly lighter and slimmer than the G26. It is a breeze to carry. Overall dimensions between the CW and the 26 are very close. The G26 has a shorter grip height, but it is slight. I don't know how much the CW9's are in your area, but I paid $399 for mine about a year ago.
I have started carrying the G26 more than the CW9, simply because I carry a G19 mag as an extra. My wife prefers the CW9 because the grip is slimmer and slightly longer.
Hope this helps...
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October 1st, 2009 08:31 PM
I used to have a Taurus 357 snubby revolver.
It developed hammer pushoff after a couple hundred rounds.
I had a Taurus 9mm DAO for a while, until the safety became loose.
I now own mostly SIG and Glock autos , and Only S&W revolvers (prelock)
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October 1st, 2009 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by wormy
I agree with wormy. I carry a 23 in an M-Tac, and no problem carrying all day long. That said: If you are absolute in your quest for a lighter thinner gun, I would recommend the Kahr CW9.
Last month I picked up a CW9 at a gun show. Got it for $405 brand new. I did a lot of research, and wanted one for a long time before I actually bought it. I've read some great reviews, and I've read about some problems early on, but in most every case where there was a problem, it was fixed to the customers satisfaction, with quick service. I was pleasantly surprised that mine ran great right out of the box. No problems at all to report, and it's a real nice gun.
Taurus on the other hand has a lifetime warranty, but, go on the Taurus forum and you will note that the lifetime warranty takes a lifetime to get your gun back should you need that service. Guys report sending out the gun for repair and getting it back in 6 to 8 weeks, only to find out that they couldn't find a problem with the gun, or, the problem is still not corrected.
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October 1st, 2009 09:14 PM
The Taurus Slim is a good idea, with an attractive shell... but the positives end right about there and so will I.
October 1st, 2009 10:20 PM
Have the PM9 and very happy with it.
October 2nd, 2009 12:33 AM
I do not own one yet, but I have shot a friends. I do like what I have experienced with it, and I do own other Taurus pistols that I also like. So I can probably see one in my future.
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October 13th, 2009 08:04 PM
I bought the taurus slim to carry and I took it to the range and I fired approx. 250 rounds through it, not once did I have a single problem. No jams or stove pipes. The firearm was flawless I think for the money taurus is awesome. I have talked to a taurus rep recently and the new revolvers they are having some quality control issues with but as for the automatic I love it. My wife took it from me to carry so I went and bought the karh cw9. The kahr uses all the same internals as the glock only in different places. It's a double action and fires smooth I think. They are put together very well ( ie. have to fire 200 rounds to break in the gun ) to losen up slide and other moving parts over all I love both guns. Taurus has never failed me and neither has the kahr
October 14th, 2009 10:29 AM
I have the CW9, put about 200 rounds thru so far. No issues, and I plan to pocket carry, it is so light, and VERY accurate. For me, with small hands, it is very comfortable.
I also added a Crimson Trace LG-437 Kahr CW9-PM40 Polymer Overmold Front Activation.
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