How to check before carry if can't get to range

How to check before carry if can't get to range

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    How to check before carry if can't get to range

    Of course this isn't my desired way to test /check a new gun before carry - but if circumstances dictate not being able to get to the range and nothing else to carry in the mean time - might want to consider the following:
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    I thought of a way to check firing - without actually firing.

    I found some .45 ACP snap caps (fake practice bullets) that I had forgotten about.

    Put a small piece of electrical tape on back of them - loaded mag with them - chambered first one & fired - of course had to manually rack slide each time to chamber next round but that wasn't a problem.

    When done - looked at back of each round and saw a very distinct indention in each piece of tape - showing that the firing pin did it's job.

    Now I'm sure it'll fire if need be - before actually being able to take to range.

    Even so - still anxious to get to the range as soon as able.
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    You're fairly sure it will fire at least the FIRST round. After that it's a crap shoot. Maybe it will cycle, maybe not. May misfeed may double feed won't know for sure. If you're betting your life you need some real range time.

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    I don't know. The chances are, yes it'll fire that first round. Like Bullseye said, but will it cycle after that?

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    It's a better test that just trusting an unknown gun.....but just barely. Just get to the range as soon as possible and wring that new gun out!
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    The best way is to buy a glock and "know" it will work, every time, lol.

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    Without a snap cap you could try a pencil down the barrel. Eraser first and the firing pin should launch it out of the barrel.

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    The odds are greatly in your favor that, (A) It will fire (B) You won't need it anyway. Let's be realistic.
    That said, it behooves you to get to the range and test it out as soon as you can because anything can happen, and you only have to lose once. Consider the odds against winning the lottery, yet there are people who have won more than once.
    At least you know that you'll get one shot off (assuming good ammo). Your idea for the test was a good one. I give you an "A" for creativity !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhouse 15 View Post
    Without a snap cap you could try a pencil down the barrel. Eraser first and the firing pin should launch it out of the barrel.
    That is how i would test it,I knew a guy pawned his colt commander 45 when he got it back he was carrying it and about 2 weeks later went to the range,first shot was a click,no fire pin hit,he disassembled his gun and apparently somebody else at the pawn shop had disassembled it and put the series 80 firing pin block in backwards,the pencil test would have shown a problem immediately,thank god he didn't need it during that time
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    I don't trust a new gun until it has, in the case of an autoloader, put 500 - 1,000 rounds downrange with the last 200 being my carry load. For revolvers I'm a little more lax. I'll settle for 100 range loads and 50 of my carry load.

    In short, I refuse to carry a gun that hasn't proven itself and I'm fortunate that I don't have to, as I keep a few "spare" guns in case something happens to the "primary". Also, after I have a gun worked on it has to prove itself at the Range before being carried. I have discovered problems with guns after a 'smith has worked on them. This is not a condemnation of Gunsmiths, just a statement of fact.

    For example, one 'smith reduced the Trigger return spring weight, and cut a couple of coils off the Mainspring. This gave me a failure to fire at the range at intermittent times. I took the gun back to him and explained the problem. We solved it by him replacing the Trigger return Spring with the original he had taken out, and putting in a new Mainspring.

    If I had carried that gun without testing it first, I may have heard a "click" when I needed to hear a BANG. The loudest sound in the world is a "click" when you expect to hear a bang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Bullseye View Post
    You're fairly sure it will fire at least the FIRST round. After that it's a crap shoot. Maybe it will cycle, maybe not. May misfeed may double feed won't know for sure. If you're betting your life you need some real range time.
    I agree 100% with you and Biker. Plus where is that bullet going? Would have a hard time dealing with shooting an innocent from being too lazy and negligent to make sure the weapon was sighted in and shooting to POI. This really holds true with a used weapon IMO.

    I now carry nothing but my 2.5" 19-4 with a 36 as my spare mag/BUG. Went back to my roots and have complete confidence in both revolvers
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    Come on Biker RN, follow it on up...... and the Second loudest sound in the world is???

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    While a gun that's never been fired, is better than being unarmed (but it could be the same thing), I'm a firm believer in 'testing' my tools prior to 'needing' to use them.
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    ArmyCop is making a point that at the very least folks should check to make certain that the semi-auto hand cycles and that there is an operational primer strike.


    Using the same argument that some of you folks have been making...you would need to remove the bullet and open up or carefully weigh every simgle cartridge to make absolutely certain that there is propellent in there because every single cartridge in the box is a technical crapshoot.

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    Sorta like taking a lug wrench to EVERY wheel of your car EACH time you take a drive...to be sure they don't fall off..
    We all do that..right..?!
    Levity aside...I agree ANY weapon you are staking your life on SHOULD be thoroughly tested for reliability (and, with firearms....accuracy) BEFORE you carry....that means test-firing with the EXACT load you'll be using for SD.....
    Just one guy's opinion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhouse 15 View Post
    Without a snap cap you could try a pencil down the barrel. Eraser first and the firing pin should launch it out of the barrel.
    The pencil test will demonstrate whether a 1911 firing pin is striking. However, it does nothing to demonstrate whether a Glock or a PM9 is striking. I tried it with my Glocks and my PM9, all of which I know work, and the pencil does not eject.

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