Can you talk me out of this 1911 Kimber?

Can you talk me out of this 1911 Kimber?

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    Can you talk me out of this 1911 Kimber?

    Hi everyone!

    I'm trying to taunt you a little bit with the title, above, but I'm looking for some feedback and comments... :)

    I will be purchasing my first handgun soon and was looking at the Kimber Stainless Pro TLE/RL II. It's a 1911 model in .45 ACP.

    The things that attract me most about it, is that it is a 1911 (.45 ACP, etc., etc.) and has the rail for mouting a light. Also, the slightly smaller size (as opposed to a full size government model). Additionally it has the night sights and a purely cosmetic thing... I like the look of the stainless model.

    Now, this isn't my first handgun, just the first one I am purchasing without it being a gift from my dad or grandfather. And for those who care, I already have a Colt 1911 Goverment model, amongst other things.

    I'm looking at this gun as my primary carry piece as soon as I'm able to get the CCW from California. However, I have to have this piece before I qualify because I have to show "proficiency" with it.

    So, my question(s) are as follows...
    does anyone have this model and are they happy with it? Does anyone have any recommendations that they think might be comparable/better?

    MANY thanks in advance! You folks are a great source of help and info!
    -Jeff

    P.S. Here's a pic from the 2006 Kimber Catalog:
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    Man you are speaking to my heart. I own two kimbers already, and I am really hankering for the same gun. the TLE II in stainless. I have shot one and love it, just have to pull the "trigger" and purchase. I can't decide if an AR15 is next or the TLE II.
    IMO, get it, you will love it, and it will last a lifetime. I don't think you can buy a better 1911 for the money. To get better you have to pay three times as much to get to a custom gun like a Wilson Combat.
    After your purchase, please give us a range report, I am waiting to know how quickly you fall in love with it.
    The two models that I own are a pro tenII 5" and a Ultra Carry II 3".
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    Alright another Kimber guy!

    Pro's
    The TLE RLII Pro is a very sweet gun and has it's purpose in life but IMO the purpose is not for CCW use. However, you can carry this gun of course your a grown man and you can do what you want, buy what you want and carry what you want.

    Con's,
    A railed 1911 is a heavier piece, has added bulk, has a specific purpose IMO for a HD gun and or a tactical open type LEO/SWAT carry piece. Finding CCW holsters will be very limited as to what you can choose from, etc.

    For CCW I would steer you towards a Stainless Pro Carry II or even a Stainless Pro Carry HD-II. They are IMO a better concealed carry piece and all the above con's goes away.

    Down the road if you want a rail gun I would get a Warrior, they are basicly a pre series II gun and a great all around gun to have, not a carry piece but that's about the only down side.

    Whatever you choose good luck with it and let us know what you decided on.


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    I have a Warrior, and carry it frequently. Very nice pistol. Accurate and very reliable.

    Holsters are not that hard to get. I have a pair of Blade-Tech kydex holsters (one paddle and one on the belt) and a Galco leather IWB.

    The Galco was not made for the rail, but putting the gun in it and leaving it there for 48 hours had it fitting like a glove.

    Plus, when not carrying it, one can mount a light for handling things that go bump in the night.

    Matt

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    Kimber is the way to go. I don't have the pro, but I do have the full size TLE II and I love it. It shoots like a dream and I carry it everyday when I can. (can't carry at work) I had considered getting a 4" model but had some problems when I test fired one which happened to be a Kimber Pro series. The full size TLE II was flawless when I and some of my LE buddies test fired it. In fact one of them bought a TLE II/RL and he carries it on duty. IMO the full size is the way to go.

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    Well you can give it a try but there may be problems with it that you're not aware of. I've heard the stories of Kimber not having consistant quality, extractor problems, overpriced, etc.........

    What I might suggest is to purchase it and ship it to me for a long term eval (maybe 30 years or so) at which point I'll gladly have it shipped back to you at my expense with a proof read evaluation.

    Signed,
    George (Another Kimber owner)

    P.S. If you should need shipping info to send it to me just pm me and I'll provide the info. :)

    BTW-Kid, I'm also in Central PA, Schuylkill County. What parts are you from?

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    Kimber's extractor problems seem to be with their external extractor designs. From what I have seen in my local shop and read on the net, they are going back to the internal extractor (as JMB intended).

    The Warrior is an internal extractor, Series I design (no firing pin block). Mine has been utterly reliable.

    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLarson
    Kimber's extractor problems seem to be with their external extractor designs. From what I have seen in my local shop and read on the net, they are going back to the internal extractor (as JMB intended).

    The problems are with the EE's and Kiber has gone back to IE's and have been shipping them for the last couple of months now.

    The Warrior is an internal extractor, Series I design (no firing pin block). Mine has been utterly reliable.

    Yep I recommend the Warrior for a rail gun, very nice weapon.

    Choose what's best for you and enjoy it.


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    Take a close look at the Ultra Carry CDP II's. I carry one on a daily basis and love it. No big weapon for me. Also for carry no rail. Not needed.Well........ you could whack the BG under the eye with it I suppose. Anyway,I would highly reccommend Kimbers(with int/ext).And coupled with the .45 ACP.....well...what a great package. Before you shoot it,do a F&B. Then put at least 200 rds thru it for break in and pick up some Wilson mags(or at least the "guts"). Then,well then,....have fun. --------

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    The SIG P220 Carry costs less, and gives you 8+1, with the same carry profile. And its a SIG. You already have a 1911. Add a SIG to the collection. If you must have single-action, the SIG P220 Carry SAO is also an option. Same profile, single-action with a safety. You can get a nice holster with the money you save.
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    To answer your original question... No, I can't talk you out of it, why would I try? Kimber makes a fine weapon. Not my choice for a carry gun, but that's a personal choice.

    Now, if you posted 'talk me out of buying this Bryco 9mm'... :)
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    Jeff - Can't think of a reason why NOT to buy a Kimber; I can only say that I tried
    "Light/ Accy. Rails" & they're not for me. I guess I'm just more traditional. I found it to be "Bulky" for lack of another description on a Sig P229R that I had. "Standard"; that's the way I like 'um...
    Don't know if that helps, but it made my 2 fingers tired of typin'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom357
    The SIG P220 Carry costs less, and gives you 8+1, with the same carry profile. And its a SIG. You already have a 1911. Add a SIG to the collection. If you must have single-action, the SIG P220 Carry SAO is also an option. Same profile, single-action with a safety. You can get a nice holster with the money you save.
    One could also recommend an XD45 with 14 rounds of ACP, light rail, light weight, cost less than a sig, reliable, etc. It's all in what you are looking for.


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    Get the Kimber I think you'll be more than happy with it. It's a 1911 how can you go wrong.

    "BTW-Kid, I'm also in Central PA, Schuylkill County. What parts are you from?" .45acp I'm from the Lewisburg area in Union County. A number of times through out the year I pass through Schuylkill Co. on my way to Bethlehem.

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