HKS Speedloaders -Silly Question

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    HKS Speedloaders -Silly Question

    We just bought some HKS speed loaders for my wife's S & W 642. We bought the correct loader for the model (according to the gun smith at the shop) but it seems like we have to jiggle the shells out of the loader to actually get them in the gun once we twist the knob.

    Not as speedy as I thought.

    Is this normal? I notice it fits other guns so maybe my expectations for fit are too high?

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    I prefer Safariland because all you do is push and the bullets are released. The HKS requires two hands or else when you turn the knob, the cylinder rotates in the same direction. You need your other hand to stop it from turning.
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    It is probably more of an issue of technique. If you are right handed try holding the revolver in your left hand with your two middle fingers through the frame and holding onto the cylinder. Then with your right hand grasp the speedloader by the BODY, not the knob, and place the cartridges in the chambers. When you try to line up the loader with the chambers focus on two cartridges that are in the loader and line up those two with two of the chamber holes. Then as the loader is resting on the cylinder use the right hand to twist the knob and the cartridges will drop into the chambers. Then close the cylinder as you let go of the loader and it will happily drop away at no effort to yourself and commence destroying the brains of the zombies.

    Here is a video for demonstration.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4mVI27Msyo
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    This does take some practice, but I don't have any issues with the HKS speedloaders and my j-frame, or my Colt Det. Spcl for that matter.

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    Try holding your revolver vertically (or as vertically as you can) and lining up the rounds in the cylinder, twist knob, let go of the speedloader, close cylinder. The rounds should drop in, and the speedloader should fall away. Don't try to manually remove the speedloader, usually you end up grabbing it at a slight angle and it catches on one or more rounds in the process. Don't worry about the loaders hitting the floor, because that's exactly how you should be practicing. Buy a separate set of speedloaders for carry because you will eventually damage your practice ones from them hitting the floor. It takes practice, but it should become easier as you get a feel for it.

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    I began using HKS loaders in the med-seventies so yes, I'm old. I got completely out of guns for nearly 5-years and returned after smelling the coffee. I noticed that moons clips had become quite popular so that’s on my Christmas shopping list. Yes obama, I said Christmas!
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    Like any part of your manual of arms the inserting and loading with speed loaders is a process that needs to be practiced to be perfected. Further, in my experience, the practice needs to be for a specific gun with the appropriate speed loader. HKS loaders need to be placed correctly over the cylinder to assure a smooth, rapid, and clean drop. Do it for awhile and your problems are likely to vanish with practice.
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    Speedloaders and SpeedStrips are ORGANIZERS so you don't have to search for loose rounds in a pocket.
    Also, grips can interfere with speedloaders and chambers that are slightly chamfered and polished and bullets with out shoulders work faster.

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    How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

    Practice, practice, practice.

    It can be the same with speedloaders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIfamvalues View Post
    We just bought some HKS speed loaders for my wife's S & W 642. We bought the correct loader for the model (according to the gun smith at the shop) but it seems like we have to jiggle the shells out of the loader to actually get them in the gun once we twist the knob.

    Not as speedy as I thought.

    Is this normal? I notice it fits other guns so maybe my expectations for fit are too high?
    I have a 637 the speedloader for it is the same as for the Ruger SP-101. However, the 637's OEM grips prevents the speedloader from lining up with the cylinder so it makes you have to fumble a bit to the gun loaded. [Not Good]

    The solution is to change the grip. S&W is aware of the issue (on the 637 at least) and will -sell- you a set of compatable grips. As for the SP-101, zero insertion problem.

    May not be your problem or issue but I thought it was worth mentioning.

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    Speed loaders certainly have benefits and I used them while on duty way back when. Today, I’m no speed freak and I certainly don’t compete. With regard to full moon clips, I’m actually more impressed with the potential safety. I know of instances where the gun owner mistakenly left one round in or one round out while handling their revolver. The benefit of taking the entire pod like’ arrangement and setting it aside, and the more fail-safe loading technique really appeals to me.
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    DO NOT rotate it "nicely" , you won't in a real situation. Turn the thing all the way, and as said... drop it, as it has served it's purpose when in a shooting fight.

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