Wait for the new Generation 4 Glock, or get the M & P?

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  • Older Glock (27, 23, etc)

    42 31.82%
  • M&P .40

    70 53.03%
  • Generation 4 Glock

    24 18.18%
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Thread: Wait for the new Generation 4 Glock, or get the M & P?

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    Wait for the new Generation 4 Glock, or get the M & P?

    OK, if you were in the market for a new .40 caliber pistol, what would you get? The new generation Glock should be available before too long, but is it worth the wait?
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    I like the grip on the M&P more than any of the Glocks. Still don't want one though. I am not trying to troll, but why not have another choice for "other?"
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    I'm curious about the Gen4 Glock; I think I'd wait.
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    4th gen. glocks seem like they are aimed specifically for the left-handed market or for people who's hands just don't fit the current grip size. But If you are right handed and like the current grip size and feel then I really don't see the point of waiting.

    Still, I am curious to see about the frame re-structuring for the .40 caliber glocks that I hear rumors about.
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    [QUOTE=NoNameMan;1410436]I like the grip on the M&P more than any of the Glocks. Still don't want one though. I am not trying to troll, but why not have another choice for "other?"[/QUOTE]

    That would be a boo boo on my part. I should have added "other", but I was only curious about these three guns for this poll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    I'm curious about the Gen4 Glock; I think I'd wait.
    JD posted this in another thread

    Gen 4 Glock: A Look at the New Features :: Guns Holsters and Gear
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    [QUOTE=basher052;1410489]
    Quote Originally Posted by NoNameMan View Post
    I like the grip on the M&P more than any of the Glocks. Still don't want one though. I am not trying to troll, but why not have another choice for "other?"[/QUOTE]

    That would be a boo boo on my part. I should have added "other", but I was only curious about these three guns for this poll.
    I have to say that I like the rough texture on the new Glocks. It's definitely an improvement.
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    I've got an M&P .40S&W so I'm a little biased, but for good reason. The M&P was designed around the .40 cartridge. They've got a fully supported chamber. They also have better ergonomics (for me, at least).

    While I look forward to seeing the Gen 4 Glocks, a gun in the hand is worth two at SHOT Show. If you don't NEED it right now, it might be worth the wait. Then again, it might not be.
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    I wouldnt buy a 40 M&P, and I don't really like the 4th gen Glocks... So I guess it would be a 3rd gen Glock for me.
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    My 3rd generation 23 and 27 work fine for me.
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    If you're not in a hurry, it might be worth the wait.

    That said, I'd wait about a year or so before buying any new gun, even a Glock.

    I've purchased several guns when they were relatively new to market, and every one either had issues or a recall. Might be best to wait and ensure any bugs get worked out first. Hopefully, I will learn from my own experience!

    Personally, I don't think there is much to improve on the current Glock design, but I understand some folks with smaller hands find the grips too thick.

    My only beef with the M&P is the hinged-trigger safety design - seems something catching the lower edge of the trigger could defeat the safety and fire the pistol. The optional thumb safety is a no-go for me - I just don't like them. I prefer the trigger-within-a-trigger design of the Glock, XD, and others - something would have to get all the way into the trigger guard to defeat the safety. JMHO, YMMV.
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    I voted for older glock because you could get a better deal on one or even buy a used one and get an even better deal, then save for mags, ammo, and a ton of holsters (which you will eventually get). Just more money for the extras.

    Heck you could even get a 2nd gen glock without the finger groves and just add on a slip on Hogue grip or something like that and get the gun for $330 and down and then have plenty of money for extras. Just something to think about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    I've got an M&P .40S&W so I'm a little biased, but for good reason. The M&P was designed around the .40 cartridge. They've got a fully supported chamber. They also have better ergonomics (for me, at least).

    While I look forward to seeing the Gen 4 Glocks, a gun in the hand is worth two at SHOT Show. If you don't NEED it right now, it might be worth the wait. Then again, it might not be.

    This is what I was looking at also. In the article on the 4th gen Glock, the author pointed out that the older Glocks are build on a 9mm design, and not a .40. That said, the Glock, any Glock for that matter, is still a strong platform. The enhancements of building it on a .40 platform can only help. I really dont think anyone could go wrong with any of the guns mentioned in this thread.
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    I like the third generation Glocks the best. I think if you can find one now, go ahead and buy that one. JMHO.
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    Glock is Good donít take this the wrong way butÖ..

    I will tell you that the M&P is better for a lot of reasons. First a lot of different safety options if your into safeties or not alot that is up to you.

    Ambidextrous slide release(If your Left handed this can make or break a purchase), easy take down, very well balanced, light weight, slim, no sharp edges, accurate right out of the box, the grip and over all feel fit exactly as your hand is made.

    Three different back-straps to fit you hand exactly. Low bore axis= better accuracy which= lead on target where it is supposed to be.

    I have a M&P40 over 1000 rounds, no failures. 15+1 rounds, easily concealable. (It is not to be mistaken for the Sigma Series from S&W which many complained about).

    Police Departments are switching over to them, and a lot of people are call them "Glock Like" (In my opinion i think the M&P is EQUAL if not better then a Glock thatís why i bought it)

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