I'd disagree with you rebel. Rohrbaugh makes a fine gun, but they really don't offer anything that Kahr doesn't have at a smaller price (though Kahrs aren't cheap either). I own a K9 and a MK9, carry the MK9 daily (in the winter I carry it as a BUG) and gotta say I'll take it over a R9 any day. It's heavier, by a large margin but then again you expect that with a steel frame. It also helps dampen the recoil significantly.