The SAS is going to school

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    The SAS is going to school

    I am taking the Sig 229 SAS with me to the advanced handgun class this weekend. Expected round count to be somewhere around 600. So, if it performs as it should and I don't have the failure to chamber a round due to my grip like I was having with my glock, then the SAS will become the first choice for carry. I have put around 300 or so rounds through it already with no failure, though I have had it fail to lock back on an empty mag (Mr. Browning put the slide stop where he did for a good reason). Looking forward to reporting positive feedback on the SAS.

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    Oooooooh Let me know how it does and be SURE to post some pics! I saw an FN P40 next to the P229 yesterday and have to say I was impressed that the grip on the FN was thinner than the Sig but held 2+ more rounds! Same controls, too. But that THAR SAS sure is PURTY!
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    Here is the only pic I have so far, 229 SAS next to my Glock 23,


    The glock holds one more round in the magazine but yet has a slightly shorther grip, hmmm. I'll post some more pics when I get my holster from K&D, should be a good one.

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    It may just be me but after a couple hundred rounds though my SAS, my trigger finger is quite sore.
    I'm looking forward to hearing how it worked out for you after 600 rounds.

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    Nice gun - if I were needing to drop to smaller with SIG's that would high on my list, along with 239.
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    Whine, wish I could own one also! Very nice

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    Bring a spare.

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    Wow, talk about beauty and the beast! Good luck with it, I'm looking forward to hearing how your class goes.
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    Love my 239 SAS - I have recently found you can't go wrong with a Sig! Here's mine and a picture of a K & D creation for it!




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    Those Sig SAS pistols sure are good lookin'. Makes my plain jane P239 look pretty plain jane.

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    Well, I won't give up on the Sig yet. No, there were no failures of any kind through the class. The trigger is nice, if a bit longer than the Glock. The grip is more comfortable, with no checkering on the backstrap to tenderize your sweaty hands while firing 300 or so rounds throughout the day. But, I was just not that comfortable with it. My hits were there, but I had more periferal hits with the Sig than the Glock. I just couldn't line the sights up as quickly and perhaps with the longer trigger pull I pulled the shots slightly.

    Here is an example; A typical drill standing at 7 yards, draw and put two center of mass, go to low ready or contact ready and scan left and right, instructor calls for a failure to stop drill by yelling, "HEAD!", you bring sights up for the cranial-ocular cavity shot and put one between the eyes.

    Well, my two center mass were often enough too high with the Sig, hitting in the shoulders and neck as opposed to the thoracic cavity. My head shot would be the same more often than not. A slightly high hit that would have only served to part the BG's hair funny and required one of more follow up shots to correct. Not good results. So, I got frustrated and went back to my Glock on the second day with much improved results. The hits were very rarely periferal and I only had one head shot that needed to be followed up with a second to get it right.

    So, was it the gun? I know it isn't since I am very accurate while bullseye shooting with the SAS. But while under stress, like when he put us against each other on some popper targets with five rounds to hit your two and then the center before the other guy I did awful with the sig and better with the Glock.

    I think I am going to change the rear sight on the SAS. I am used to the three dot sight system and the Sig uses a single white bar on the rear sight. I don't think I lined this system up properly and hence the high and periferal hits.

    I found I also prefer the slide serrations on the glock to the Sig. With the blocky slide of the Glock I get a very positive grip on the serrations while racking the slide. With the Sig, due to the way the slide is machined, the serrations don't go all the way from top to bottom, and while I didn't have any problems racking the slide per se it did not feel as easy (I also found out just how sharp the bottom edges on the slide can be when I wrapped my fingers around too far and sliced my finger open).

    Not as stellar a report as I had hoped to give on my performance with the Sig, but hardly hopeless either. I will change rear sights and use it again in another class in the coming months and hopefully have better results, but for now the Glock stays on the belt and the Sig stays in the safe.

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    When I was looking for a new carry I handled the SAS, though I didn't fire it. Personally I found them to be too fat in the grips for my fairly small hands. However, in your case I wondered if it was just that you had a lot more experience with the Glock. 600 or so rounds through the SAS is decent but if you have a lot of experience on the Glock it may just take longer for you to get used to the Sig. Just a thought.
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    Exclamation Sig Sights S***

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocnerd
    I think I am going to change the rear sight on the SAS. I am used to the three dot sight system and the Sig uses a single white bar on the rear sight. I don't think I lined this system up properly and hence the high and periferal hits...
    Sights are a DEFINITE problem on any Sig. I got Meprolights on my
    P245 with the bright green front dot and the rear dots a nice contrasting yellow, albeit somewhat dimmer. The rear sights act like a sort of "Ghost Ring" to pull the eyes to a natural sight picture on the front sights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyW
    However, in your case I wondered if it was just that you had a lot more experience with the Glock. 600 or so rounds through the SAS is decent but if you have a lot of experience on the Glock it may just take longer for you to get used to the Sig. Just a thought.
    I am sure this is partly to blame. I have shot the glock much more than the Sig and used it in the last class that I took, so it is much more familiar in the hand. I probably have, including the rounds fired in class, about 800 or so through the Sig. I probably have close to 3000 through the Glock if not more.

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