STI GUARDIAN - Any Thoughts?

STI GUARDIAN - Any Thoughts?

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    STI GUARDIAN - Any Thoughts?

    Hello, I have been looking at adding another pistol to my arsenal and love the 1911 style. Don't want to pay over a grand for one though.

    Have been looking at the Taurus PT-1911ALR as there are many very good reviews on the PT1911 and its reliability.

    One person recommended I'd be better off going with STI than Taurus, but I have not read too much on STI.

    So I went to their site, looking at their various models and saw the Spartan, which is an equivalent model to the Taurus.

    After looking at their various models, I thought it would be nice to have a smaller pistol in case I wanted to carry it. I mean, I don't want to carry my 50 cal Glock all the time. I will generally carry that in the winter when I know I am going into the badlands.

    For other times, I want something that will be easier to carry and be very reliable! The Guardian looks like a good choice.

    What do you all know about STI and do you have any insight?
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    I don't own one but I have heard lots of good feedback about them. And I have heard negatives about Taurus (even though I have had a couple good ones) so.... if it were me choosing I think I would buy an STI branded gun before a Taurus these days... that's my input however vague and pitiful it may be.

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    STI rules the competition circles in USPSA, and make a quality product. I have shot STI's since 1992 and they are top-notch. The Full-house racegun I shot from 1992-2003 had well over 120,000 rounds through it and still locked up like a bank vault; the only thing I did was replace the barrel/comp assembly around 70,000 rounds....
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    I was looking at the STI as well. The guy at my local GS said they're a really good buy as is, and unlike some others that might require some fine tuning the STI is from the ground up a competition style 1911. I really want to add a quality 1911 to my inventory, but the good ones are so darn pricy and form some of the stories I've read about the Kimbers, really makes me want to slow down and do some more research. As it stands now, it looks like my wife is wanting me to put the brakes on my purchase, she thinks it's to much money to spend on something I'm gonna let sit in the safe all day.. I'll probably wait a few months and add one next xmas, with or without approval.

    I should've known better than to pretend that she'd react like some have suggested. "You should be honest and tell her everything" poppycock! Serves me right.



    Now I gotta pick something a little less pricy and smaller.....Oh well, regroup and fall back to my plan involving the Kahr PM9 or .40 And NO! I'm not gonna ask for permission...


    Good luck with your purchase.
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    You should have asked me... I would have schooled you in the old "Oh that old thing? Had that a while now... " school of gun purchasing.

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    You can usually find a Spartan on gunbroker for under 600. They are a pretty good buy at that price. The "extras" the Taurus includes are poorly done and their customer service is horrible. The taurus is overpriced for what you actually get. I would buy the Spartan, which has also just been released in 9mm. If you have more to spend upgrade to the Trojan.
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    Being a long time 1911 fan / owner / shooter and past IPSC and present practical shooter....IMO hands down STI would be my choice for sure over Taurus.

    In fact last week I bought an STI Escort 45 over a Kimber Ultra Carry 45 for an addition to my everyday carry gun collection because of STI's excellent reputation for Reliablity, Quality, Accuracy, and Customer Service. And thier prices arn't bad either for what you get.

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    Well, I just found out that STI doesn't make the Guardian in 40 cal.

    Funny... cause I spoke with two different reps this morning and they both said the Guardian was available in 40. They informed me of this when I called my local gun shop to place and order that they don't make it in 40.

    They recommended the Escort which is an aluminum frame and will have more recoil. They did say they would do a 40 cal Guardian through the custom shop.
    But we all know THAT adds to the price and I can't get myself to spend more than a grand on a new gun right now.

    Another funny thing... I just got a call from my local gun shop and told me their price is a hundred bucks HIGHER than the msrp on all STI guns and the custom shop make would be $400 more.

    Anyone know where to get an escort 40 cal for less?

    OR... I found a Charles Daly 40 cal commander size in blue for $850.
    What do you all know about C.D.?

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    Is this a defense gun, a competition gun, or a plinker?

    There is no comparison between STI quality and Taurus quality; for anything other than a plinker, get however much STI you can afford. Or get a good quality Springfield Loaded and use it as a project gun down the road...

    If it is a defense gun, I'd stick with .45ACP in a 1911; I think there are too many design compromises in off-caliber 1911s, even though there are of course examples out there that will run fine for their owner. Heck, I have a Fusion 9mm (STI frame and slide, actually), but I wouldn't carry it. Exceptions are for those (very few) other caliber 1911s with design changes specific to the round, like the Springfield EMP.

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    I believe in the 45....

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    I read yesterday that Charles Daley closed their doors. The price you mentioned is high on the CD. For a lower cost 1911, RIA has a good reputation and good customer service, contrary to what I've read about Taurus.

    I have a STI 9mm Trojan and it's an outstanding pistol. I have around 6,000 rounds through it using cast bullet reloads with zero problems.

    For a cheaper alternative, I'd consider a Spartan but I do like the "upcut" trigger guard and high rise grip safety on the Trojan (and the rest of their line in single stacks have these features, I believe.) The added features were worth the cost to me.

    If you buy through Brazos or Dawson, you can purchase STI for a 10% discount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Compact45 View Post
    I believe in the 45....
    I too voted for the American!

    For caliber... I don't know why everyone says 45. the 45 is slightly fatter than the 40, though it is much slower than a 40. Everyone thinks that the 40 will fly right through the body and do little harm as so with a 9mm. But I've got to say that the 40 with its higher velocity can create more of a shock to the body than the 45. If you're using quality hollow point ammo like Hornady Taps or Winchester XPD1, you will put a guy down quicker.

    I have read several articles that spoke of the 45 and if someone is wearing a lot of clothing in the winter and you are around 25 yards away that that person may not go down.

    I do know that most self defense situations will be within 15 yards or less and the 45 would probably be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudpeak View Post
    I read yesterday that Charles Daley closed their doors. The price you mentioned is high on the CD. For a lower cost 1911, RIA has a good reputation and good customer service, contrary to what I've read about Taurus.

    I have a STI 9mm Trojan and it's an outstanding pistol. I have around 6,000 rounds through it using cast bullet reloads with zero problems.

    For a cheaper alternative, I'd consider a Spartan but I do like the "upcut" trigger guard and high rise grip safety on the Trojan (and the rest of their line in single stacks have these features, I believe.) The added features were worth the cost to me.

    If you buy through Brazos or Dawson, you can purchase STI for a 10% discount.

    Yes, I just went to their website and got the message. You can visit here: KBI, Inc.

    That's kind of sad really... as gun sales have increased tremendously and NOW they go out of business??

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    Closed or not, $850 is an outrageous price for a Daly 1911.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnyBaby View Post
    I too voted for the American!

    For caliber... I don't know why everyone says 45. the 45 is slightly fatter than the 40, though it is much slower than a 40. Everyone thinks that the 40 will fly right through the body and do little harm as so with a 9mm. But I've got to say that the 40 with its higher velocity can create more of a shock to the body than the 45. If you're using quality hollow point ammo like Hornady Taps or Winchester XPD1, you will put a guy down quicker.

    I have read several articles that spoke of the 45 and if someone is wearing a lot of clothing in the winter and you are around 25 yards away that that person may not go down.
    I do know that most self defense situations will be within 15 yards or less and the 45 would probably be good.
    I dont think I would personally want to test that mentioned articles claim at 25 yards with lots of clothes on and get shot with a 45.

    Still I like the 45......I own and shoot a pistol in 40 but I carry the 45
    Last edited by Compact45; February 5th, 2010 at 12:33 AM.

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