This is a discussion on Walther P22 or Taurus Millennium pro 9mm within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; okay... so this is kinda more for the ladies on here... I am wanting to carry concealed and my husband says that the Walther doesn't ...
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okay... so this is kinda more for the ladies on here... I am wanting to carry concealed and my husband says that the Walther doesn't have as much stoping power but I like the size alot more than the Taurus, but he wants me to have the taurus... any suggestions anyone carry the Walther?
"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are safe."
- Luke 11:21
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My wife has a Taurus PT111 Mil. Pro. 9mm.
We thought it would work fine for CC for her, and although she shoots and handles it very well, it was to large and heavy for her to carry on a day to day use because of different dress styles and activity.
Daughter has P22 and really likes it, but 22 is just under powered for effective CC.
Remember you may only get 1 shot to stop a BG, and 22 may be the end of him but it may take a long time to be effective.
In our search for the right answer I bought a Kel Tec P3AT for a BUG for me and wife tried it at the range and looked at me and said "mine" and she took it and carries it everywhere she goes.
I bought me another P3AT and we both carry the same gun and ammo.
380 may seem weak but with good HP ammo it is very effective without undue over penetration.
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Go pick up a Walther PK380, very similar to the P-22 in size and function, you could even buy the P-22 for practice and save so $$ from ammo cost.
2-14-10 I was at a local gun show, picked up the PK-380 $305.00 plus tax, I just was not sure what I would do with it, I already own a P-3AT and LPC . Sure was tempting.......
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Another option is the Taurus 709 Slim. It's about the same size as the P-22 but chambered in 9mm.
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Take a look at a Taurus PT 709 slim. About the same size as the P22 but it is a 9 mm handgun. The P22, while a good feeling gun and a hoot to shot, isn't a very good defensive carry handgun being a 22LR. On the other hand, better to carry a 22LR than nothing at all. I'd keep looking at other options until your 100% positive nothing else works for you then buy what will make you happy and what "you" will be comfortable carrying.
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Consider the Taurus PT709 Slim. It is a thin single stack 9mm light and easy to carry. It's virtually the same size as many .380s (and smaller than many) with the advantages of a full 9mm round. It's smaller, thinner, and lighter than the Taurus Mill Pro and still 9mm.
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Do the PT709 great carry gun.
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I also would recommend at least "look" at a Taurus 709 Slim and if possible shoot one. With a 9mm vs. .22 you've gone from "making the BG mad" when you shoot them to "hurting the BG" when you shoot them.
Sometimes in life you have to stand your ground. It's a hard lesson to learn and even most adults don't get it, but in the end only I can be responsible for my life. If faced with any type of adversity, only I can overcome it. Waiting for someone else to take responsibility is a long fruitless wait.
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I gotta put in another vote against the P22. I own one and love shooting it but would never trust my life to it, especially considering there's 380's in the same price range. .22LR and the P22 are just simply too unreliable for this application.
Ideally you'd buy a 380 or 9 for CC and get a P22 for practice. That's what I did.
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To answer your question, if the two choices are the only ones you are considering, go with the Taurus. 9mm vs .22 - no comparison. I have the Millenium Pro. So far, over 1000 rounds, no problems. It is bulky to carry, but I do carry it sometimes. Hell, my normal carry gun is a 2.2 lb 1911. The pro is substantially less.
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Look at the Walther PPS in 9mm. Very slim width and adjustable back straps for small hands.
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Any gun is better than no gun. What do you feel comfortable shooting? What can you shoot fast and accurately? Try a number of guns and go with what you can personally handle and trust. I like the larger calibers but if yoiu can not handle them, the P22 may be your solution. You are the only one that can make the final choice.
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Originally Posted by searcher 45
It is the diffrent dress styles that worry me about most guns... I realyl don't want to have buy a whole new wardrobe to cover up a gun but at the same time with 95 percent of the clothes I wear wont cover anything more than me... but there isn't a lot that I can wear to conceal but still look nice... appearance is not my #1 thing but I don't buy clothes I am going to put in the closet and never wear... also hand size is another issue I have little hands and even some 9mm my hand doesn't wrap around enough for me to be comfortable enough to shoot... like the H&K I bought my husband... My hand just plan and simple doesn't fit... Then there is also the exercise thing... when it is warm out side chances are you will find me with my ipod in my ears and I am running laps around the neighborhood... I need soemthing that will cover all the bases... cause I really don't want to ave a diffrent gun for all my diffrent daily activities...
"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are safe."
- Luke 11:21
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
C. S. Lewis
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Another vote here for the 709 slim. I hate taurus's customer service but I like the guns. My x-wife had no issue getting her hand around the 709 and she was a fairly small woman. Another option would be something like a ruger LCP which would be even smaller then the 709. I agree with everyone trying to steer you clear of a .22. There are guns the same size or smaller that pack a larger punch.
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The P22 is generally a poor choice for self-defense purposes.
The .22 Long Rifle cartridge it fires is rimmed, which occasionally causes misfeeds that can jam a semiautomatic. The primer, which sets off the powder charge, is "spun" into the base of the cartridge casing instead of being a distinct and self-contained primer. This makes such ammunition (Rimfire ammunition) more prone to primer-related malfunctions that can cause the ammo to fail to fire.
And of course, the .22 Long Rifle is a very low-powered cartridge.
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