Commander bobtailed 1911 - go with .38 super or .40?

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    Commander bobtailed 1911 - go with .38 super or .40?

    I have been looking for a bobtailed commander and have a friend who builds them (but until now has not sold them ;-)

    He has two he is selling: both have caspian frame and slide, ed brown internals, good stuff.

    One is a .38 super, one is .40sw.

    I am looking for feedback (and I anticipate it will be opinion) as to which is better for a carry companion? I shoot .40 more especially due to cost, are there benefits to 38 super other than less muzzle rise?

    Thanks for your input

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    IMO....I'd opt for the .40..............although my 1st choice would be a .45ACP......Naturally.

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    .40 S&W can even be found in Walmart cheaply. .38 Super not so much but it is an excellent cartridge.
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    Vote for .40

    I would personally go with .40 over .38 Super. For practice ammo, the .40 will be far more readily available and priced lower than the .38 Super.

    For defensive use, there isn't any advantage of the .38 Super over .40. If you look at the lighter weight .40 defensive ammo, it delivers equivalent or greater muzzle energy compared to .38 Super. For example, the Corbon website shows the following:

    .38 Super 115 grain +P JHP - 5 inch barrel - 1425 fps velocity, 519 ft-lbs energy.

    .40 S&W 135 grain JHP - 4 inch barrel - 1325 fps velocity, 526 ft-lbs energy.

    I suspect that from a 4 inch test barrel the .38 Super velocity would be about the same as the .40 S&W shown, and the energy would be significantly less.
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    Thanks for all the info so-far, this has been a big help

    I don't want anyone to think I frown on .45 as I have many and am just trying something different on this one

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    For a 1911 carry gun, I'd go .45ACP. It's what the gun is designed to shoot, and anything else is some sort of engineering compromise at heart.
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    I vote for the .40.

    Does the .40 give and extra round in capacity over the .45? If it doesn't, I would stick with the .45.

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    Never shot either but cost says 40.

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    I'm a Super fan, but .40 S&W makes more sense.
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    The other posters are right about the .40, I have an STI carry gun I had built up in .38 super, but had the extractor re-tuned to handle rimless rounds. The reason I did this was to carry 9x23 winchester rounds in the gun; It is just a rimless .38 super with a lot more power, more than any .40; I know the silvertip loading in 9x23 is a 125gr jhp traveling around 1550......

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    Unless you reload go with the .40. .40 caliber ammo is available most everywhere, the .38 Super you'll probably have to get it from a gun store and pay premium price for it.
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    Ok, I'm going to say .38 Super PURELY on cool factor. If this is your EDC gun and you plan to shoot it a lot, then .40. But a .40 cal in 1911 just doesn't sit right with me. The 1911 and .45 ACP go together like apple pie and ice cream. But "true" 1911's were also chambered in .38 Super back in the day (30's???) I'm always wanted one.

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    .38 Super was an original Colt chambering. The .40 just belongs in a Glock.
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