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February 19th, 2010 09:33 PM
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new Sig p238
Well I finally broke down and bought a Sig P238. I didn't want to. I was hoping to find something in 9mm that would work reliably, unlike my Kel Tec's (PF9 and P11) that get a failure to extract on average every three mags. Spent case doesn't come out. Got new gun and mags from Kel Tec, still sucks. ON the other hand, the little Sig met my expectations. I only fired 50 rounds through it, but, I only had one failure to extract. Note that I picked up the gun upstairs at the dealer and went downstairs to the range and fired it without any "fluff and buff".
I can't wait until my next trip to the range now that I've cleaned it. I got the Nitron with night sights for $500. Dissappointed it only had one mag. But the gun doesn't rattle like the door on my 1972 Ford mustag, which is what my Kel Tec PF9 reminds me off. The Sig is built well and it is still light. (NO safety problems like the recall.) I've talked with a few retired LEO's who put aside my concerns about the weaknesses of the 380. That is what they carry.
I bought some insurance by buying Buffalo Bore 380's. They hump. This little gun carries very well and I shot a 10 shot group about 2.5 inches at 21 feet. With the Kel Tec's I'm lucky to get 5 inches out of 10 rounds. Admittedly, 9mm is more to handle than the 380. Which is another plus for the 380. If you fire a canon and miss, what's the point. I don't mean to bash Kel Tec, have read many rave revues on them, but my experiences is far less than sterling. I did the trigger job described on the Kel Tec forum on the P11 hoping it would be better. It does lighten the trigger significantly but after shooting the short stroke on the Glock 36 I just can't get used to that long pull. I was a dedicated revolver guy, and thought I could shoot a double action only auto with the same long pull, but something is diff. (for background, I'm pretty good with a double action revolver.) Trigger job does nothing for jams. I keep telling Kel Tec it's the notch on the follower on the mags. They sent me a new one not much better than the original. (One guys 2 cents.)
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February 19th, 2010 11:09 PM
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You won't be disappointed with the 238...I am carrying one now. I got the nitron w/o nite sites and I love it. I had some problems with some cheap ammo...but wwb works fine...the only problems I have ever had with it were with FMJ ammo...it functions HP's great...I have all the confidence in it...very accurate...I can't tell ya how accurate mine is...all I know is I can put 6 out of 7 in a beer can at 15 yards...something I could never do with my LCP, KelTEC or NAA's...these are great lil guns...don't buy a sig mag...find one for a colt mustang...they work just as good.. hope you enjoy your Sig...Robbie
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February 19th, 2010 11:49 PM
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February 20th, 2010 07:47 AM
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Congrats on your new pistola!
It sounds like you have gotten yourself a great little 'self-defense' buddy...one that will be sooooooooooooo easy to conceal.
"That I cannot do."
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February 20th, 2010 09:26 AM
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Love mine, it has been perfect!
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February 20th, 2010 10:46 AM
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Love my P230 .380 with Buffalo Bore 100gr. Just right size for front pocket carry. Never feel under armed and with Buffalo Bore 100gr don't need a heavier pistol.
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February 20th, 2010 10:58 AM
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I just noticed on the SIG company site they have a 238 SAS, I now find myself wanting to go shopping!
Rick
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February 20th, 2010 11:21 AM
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Not to be a downer, but my P238 will not run the 100gr Buffalo Bore at all. Jams every 4th round in a magazine every time. I've went back to WWB flats. Both my reloads and WWB are 100% reliable.
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February 20th, 2010 02:25 PM
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I love my p238, its been great for all 300ish rounds I've put through it. I do like the looks of the SAS version but I'm very happy with my Blackwood version so no sweat for me (though something to look for in the future perhaps).
I have ran Independence, PMC, Sellier and Bellot, Blazer, Hornadady CD (my SD round) and American Eagle through mine, didn't hiccup on any in particular.
Though I like the idea of the buffalo bore, it also worries me as there is no +p spec for .380. Here is a thread on the Sigforum regarding the use of Buffalo bore and a bad experience. It is a test group of only one so your mileage may vary but I'm completely happy with how mine shoots with standard velocity factory ammo.
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February 20th, 2010 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
jsunsr
Well I finally broke down and bought a Sig P238. I didn't want to. I was hoping to find something in 9mm that would work reliably, unlike my Kel Tec's (PF9 and P11) that get a failure to extract on average every three mags. Spent case doesn't come out. Got new gun and mags from Kel Tec, still sucks. ON the other hand, the little Sig met my expectations. I only fired 50 rounds through it, but, I only had one failure to extract. Note that I picked up the gun upstairs at the dealer and went downstairs to the range and fired it without any "fluff and buff".
I can't wait until my next trip to the range now that I've cleaned it. I got the Nitron with night sights for $500. Dissappointed it only had one mag. But the gun doesn't rattle like the door on my 1972 Ford mustag, which is what my Kel Tec PF9 reminds me off. The Sig is built well and it is still light. (NO safety problems like the recall.) I've talked with a few retired LEO's who put aside my concerns about the weaknesses of the 380. That is what they carry.
I bought some insurance by buying Buffalo Bore 380's. They hump. This little gun carries very well and I shot a 10 shot group about 2.5 inches at 21 feet. With the Kel Tec's I'm lucky to get 5 inches out of 10 rounds. Admittedly, 9mm is more to handle than the 380. Which is another plus for the 380. If you fire a canon and miss, what's the point. I don't mean to bash Kel Tec, have read many rave revues on them, but my experiences is far less than sterling. I did the trigger job described on the Kel Tec forum on the P11 hoping it would be better. It does lighten the trigger significantly but after shooting the short stroke on the Glock 36 I just can't get used to that long pull. I was a dedicated revolver guy, and thought I could shoot a double action only auto with the same long pull, but something is diff. (for background, I'm pretty good with a double action revolver.) Trigger job does nothing for jams. I keep telling Kel Tec it's the notch on the follower on the mags. They sent me a new one not much better than the original. (One guys 2 cents.)
Congrats I enjoy mine. Its fed all FMJ flawlessly and eats my 102 golden sabers like candy

Originally Posted by
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Not to be a downer, but my P238 will not run the 100gr Buffalo Bore at all. Jams every 4th round in a magazine every time. I've went back to WWB flats. Both my reloads and WWB are 100% reliable.
what powder and bullet weight/type are you using for your reloads?
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February 20th, 2010 03:00 PM
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jsunr: nice looking piece. I'm trying to keep myself from getting one!!!

Originally Posted by
rstickle
I just noticed on the SIG company site they have a 238 SAS, I now find myself wanting to go shopping!
A friend of mine just bought one of these. Sweet little pistol. Guy at the range told him not to carry this in condition one as the safety has a tendency to switch off. Anybody have this issue?
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February 20th, 2010 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
tawcat
jsunr: nice looking piece. I'm trying to keep myself from getting one!!!
A friend of mine just bought one of these. Sweet little pistol. Guy at the range told him not to carry this in condition one as the safety has a tendency to switch off. Anybody have this issue?
nope mine stays on until i thumb it off. I use a don hume pocket holster though so it would be rather hard for it to come off. The few times i've just dropped it in a pair of gym shorts though it always stayed on. Its rather stiff safety don't see it coming off inadvertently. Don't have the SAS version though which might be what you're talking about
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February 20th, 2010 04:19 PM
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Yes the SAS, but I would think all the safety mechanisms are the same.
I've never had a piece go off safe on me, but there is a first time for everything!!!
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February 20th, 2010 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Yes the SAS, but I would think all the safety mechanisms are the same.
I've never had a piece go off safe on me, but there is a first time for everything!!!
I did a quick search, nothing in depth, the SAS appears to have rounded edges and a pretty package...again didn't do in depth search. Based on that I'd have to assume the safety is the same and again no problems with mine.
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February 20th, 2010 04:28 PM
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I think the SAS package would also make a nice pistol for BBQs.
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