Rohrbaugh or Kel-Tec

Rohrbaugh or Kel-Tec

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    Rohrbaugh or Kel-Tec

    Hey guys,

    I need a nice little gun to keep in my pocket at work.

    A guy on our shooting told me to get a Kel-Tec P3AT in a pocket holster, but I clocked on Chris's sig and I kind of like the Rohrbaugh P9S.

    I have no experience with either, which would you suggest for a pocket gun? I'm thinking the Rohrbaugh simply because I can put my 9mm in it.
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    For your reasons stated above,if I had plenty of money,I'd surely buy............the Kel-Tec. > BTJM ------
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    Ever looked into the Kahr PM9/40 or MK9/40? Great little handgun that fits easily in a jeans pocket and is pretty damn accurate and controllable for a gun it's size.
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    You can buy 3 of the Kel-tec P3AT's for the price of a Rohrbaugh R9. That said, the R9 is a much nicer gun. Better quality, much better trigger, more effective caliber.

    Rohrbaugh's downside is 1) price, nearly $1000 and 2) It's heavy. If it were any lighter, I don't think I'd want to shoot 9mm from it, but it is quite heavy in a pocket.

    P3AT's sometimes have issues from the factory, finish work isn't great, and the trigger is LLOOONNNGGG. It has a lifetime backing from the factory, most problems are simple to fix, even for a 'tinkerer' like myself, and it's size and weight make it perfect for pocket carry. Did I mention that they're cheap??

    I have the P3AT :)
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    Bit apples and oranges and yes - monster price differential so really hard to compare them in some ways.

    Seeing as G2 KT seems more reliable than G1's - probably worth considering - tho I have to say I hate the look and feel - but then hey, function is the main deal. I had an early one and sold it.

    Even the R9 has been for a few folks less than 100% - hard to tell why in some cases as most people get on with it fine. I only really have mine for BUG duty tho just rarely it might have to be 1&#186; as my only option.

    A grand is a lot to plunk down that's for sure tho the gun is extremely finely engineered - much will be down to budget I think.
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    My wife's new gen2 P32 has over 250 rounds through it with one minor jam.

    We're happy with it.
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    Porche or Ford?

    I just recently bought a P3AT. But if I could have afforded the R9 I would have gone that route. The Kel-Tecs seem to work very well if you use them for what they are intended but the Rohrbaugh sure seems like a nice gun.
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    Kel tec also has the p-11 which is a 9mm and is coming out with a single stack 9mm that is supposed to be even smaller.
    I own a p3at and use it everyday, one way or another...it is SO small and light that carrying it is...well forgetful. you can actually forget you have it in your pocket. I bought a rubber boot slip on grip and a +1 mag with finger ext on it, and that makes all the difference in the world for shooting and adds virtually nothing to size.
    just my .02, but I would buy the p3at again, if I had it to do over.
    reliabe, light, safe,and very very concealable.
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    Thumbs up

    My gut feeling is that the earlier Rohrbaughs are going to end up being highly collectible firearms in the future.
    Just a funny sneaking little hunch that I have.

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    the kel-tec will have issues. but you can work them out. the factory and internet sites have the information to correct any propblems with the kel-tec. i have a p3at and have worked on it to make it a carry gun. some on the site/peoples will tell you that their kel-tec worked 100% out of the box. mine was 85% out of the box, now it is 98%, i want 100%, just like my glocks. I still carry it as a "bug" (sometimes), (s&w model 60 is the best), but i don't feel good about it. i would go with the kel-tec, the price is right and the factory will strand behind the gun. i have not shipped my 380 to the factory, i have more test/rounds to shoot before i get to this point. i do not known any thing about the r9, it looks like a goood gun, but i do not have one to test. i was going to buy one, but kel-tec will have a small 9mm (i have the kel-tec p11 and it is a great gun) this summer, and shyy is also coming out with a small 9mm this summer. i am going to get both of them and test them hard. i test all of my guns hard (duty and off duty guns), this way i know they will go bang when i need them too. the kel-tec might take some work and i don't know about the r9.

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    I have the P-11, and have had no problem with it. My first test was to buy 250 rounds of 9mm reloads at a gunshow for $9. Lousy, dirty ammo. I put all 250 rounds through the new Kel-tek as fast as I could load the mags. No malfunctions. Rhome made a nice holster for it, but it is almost sacreligious to use it on the plastic toy. I may have been lucky, but it is accurate, easy to carry in the pocket or a calculator case clipped to the belt, is the size of a ,380, and has 10 rounds of 9mm or 15 if you use a Smith mag. Did I say I like it?

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    Split the difference, and go Seecamp. Seriously, I would want to try an R9, before buying one. I have shot 2" .357 mags, but the R9 is small. My Seecamps are fairly "snappy" on the trigger finger, with Fiocchi JHPs, so...

    Also, a pocket gun is one you will most likely always have on you, hence, if you ever need one, it will be the one. Unless you are of above average resources (more power to you, if so!), a $300-400 gun lost to the evidence locker would be easier than a $1K gun. The old wisdom: "Two is one, and one is none...."

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    I think the P11 is the most reliable of the Kel-Tec bunch. I had one and never had a failure. I also have a P3-AT with which I have also never had a failure. Like everyone else has stated, it is just SO small there is never a reason to not carry it.

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    For the most "bang for the buck" go keltec. Stick with the second generation P3AT (New extractor) and feed it different ammos to see what it likes. For what you are looking for....slim, light, pocket carry, won't even know it is there....you won't be dissapointed. R9 is a fine piece of hardware, but I don't want my BUG to cost more than my primary. Also look at Gunsamerica.com under "K other guns". They have some good prices. Good luck.
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    At the local gunshop yesterday,I saw a used P-3AT,G2,great shape,green frame like mine,for $225. One probably could have gotten it for 200 even. ----------

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