My new HBE belts..CROCODILE and ELEPHANT

My new HBE belts..CROCODILE and ELEPHANT

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    My new HBE belts..CROCODILE and ELEPHANT

    I just received two belts from Eric and they are incredible.
    Semi matte black crocodile and a gray elephant belt.
    They were delivered as promised and the workmanship is top notch.
    I also bought a new Pro TL for my Kahr PM45. Very nice.
    Thanks Eric.
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    Good looking belts. The crocodile belt almost looks like it has a blue tint to it but I'm guessing that is due to the camera flash.
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    Beautiful gear..!! Are those 1.5"..?

    Congrats.
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    They are both 1 1/4 inch as I like a looser fit on the holster.
    The crocodile belt is black, just the lighting throws a blue tint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swenson Bobcat View Post
    They are both 1 1/4 inch as I like a looser fit on the holster.
    The crocodile belt is black, just the lighting throws a blue tint.
    I should have caught that.

    I also recently had a 1.25" full length (one piece) belt made in Alligator. It was made by a local leather craftsman so I was able to pick out the skin and the strip of belly for my belt. It was finished in 4 days.

    Eric does outstanding work. I've always admired his craftsmanship.
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    Sorry, they looked better on the animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltyke View Post
    Sorry, they looked better on the animals.
    I'm curious. Your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by los View Post
    I'm curious. Your point?
    My point? Why use skins from exotic, possibly endangered wild animals when domesticated leather is readily available? Elephants are hunted for only two reasons - ivory and leather. Or has anyone ever seen an elephant sirloin in a store or restaurant? Crocs, fortunately, were taken off the endangered list several years ago and are now thriving - but if we begin irresponsible hunting it will happen again.

    Sure, it's beautiful leather and rugged to boot. It's your right to wear it if you so choose. Others voiced their opinion for, I voiced mine against. Period. I'm not likely to change my viewpoint, and I suspect you aren't, either. So, subject closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltyke View Post
    Sorry, they looked better on the animals.
    Kel you make a valid point on the Elephants. But Crocs?

    Speaking about animals. Do you know where can I turn in my lucky rabbits foot?
    I figure it wasn't to lucky for the rabbit if I have it

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    I don't care what anybody say's, those are some nice belts. Eric does beautiful work, you should be very proud to have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltyke View Post
    My point? Why use skins from exotic, possibly endangered wild animals when domesticated leather is readily available? Elephants are hunted for only two reasons - ivory and leather. Or has anyone ever seen an elephant sirloin in a store or restaurant? Crocs, fortunately, were taken off the endangered list several years ago and are now thriving - but if we begin irresponsible hunting it will happen again.

    Sure, it's beautiful leather and rugged to boot. It's your right to wear it if you so choose. Others voiced their opinion for, I voiced mine against. Period. I'm not likely to change my viewpoint, and I suspect you aren't, either. So, subject closed.
    Point well taken, Keltyke. I appreciate your reply and agree with most of what you wrote.

    Of course, not all exotic animal [Elephant] hides make it to the custom leathercraftsor's table by means of poaching and/or hunting. Agreed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by los View Post
    Of course, not all exotic animal [Elephant] hides make it to the custom leathercraftsor's table by means of poaching and/or hunting. Agreed?
    Agreed. Some are harvested specifically for leather and other products, similar to our mink/rabbit/name your fur farms.

    I don't take away from the beauty and usefulness of these skins, and I understand why people want them. I'd just like to make sure where the manufacturer got them, ya know?

    Not criticizing, just being watchful.

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    Thanks everyone. I am very happy with the belts.
    By the way, the hides were legally imported. I think that is why elephant is so rare here in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swenson Bobcat View Post
    Thanks everyone. I am very happy with the belts.
    By the way, the hides were legally imported. I think that is why elephant is so rare here in the USA.
    I had Elephant hide boots tears ago...really tough stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltyke View Post
    Agreed. Some are harvested specifically for leather and other products, similar to our mink/rabbit/name your fur farms.

    I don't take away from the beauty and usefulness of these skins, and I understand why people want them. I'd just like to make sure where the manufacturer got them, ya know?

    Not criticizing, just being watchful.

    I respect your opinion, but you should also consider that a significant portion of imported exotic leather comes from animals being culled as a conservation measure, particularly elephant leather and ivory.

    If ecological management necessitates culling an elephant bull, I personally see no harm in rendering the carcass and utilizing what you get from it, for example.

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