clip draw ?

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    Question clip draw ?

    ive been looking into this. i mostly carry owb 96 percent of the time at 3:00 3:30 position i do have a iwb holster but im not a big fan of them i usually just stick in in my pants if im running out real quick i have a 34 waist and wear a 34 pant so the gun dont move on me. but im just wondering does anyone use one whats your thoughts on it.

    p.s. it would be for a glock 19

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    I tried one years ago. I practice with what I carry. The results were a nasty laceration on my finger while racking the slide. Between that and having an uncovered trigger, I strongly vote NO.
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    I know some do it, but I'd just be uncomfortable carrying a gun, especially a Glock, W/O a holster. It just doesn't seem safe, plus maybe not that comfortable & if it's during the summer, I'd rather have something between me & the gun.
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    I carried my Glock 29 using a Jentra Clip but I also added a NY trigger spring to increase the trigger pull to 12lbs. Easier to install and remove in my opinion.
    Jentra Parts jentra klip inside the waistband fo-MidwestHuntersOutlet.com

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    I use one the vast majority of the time with my XD. Here's a review I did A while ago.
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    Glock + Clip Draw = Vasectomy! OMOYMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Glock + Clip Draw = Vasectomy! OMOYMV
    Yes...agreed.....just wouldnt do it with anything other than a revolver.
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    Generally, carrying any handgun in a manner other than a holster, you risk an ND...why? Uncovered triggers are not good for open or concealed carry.
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    Clip draw? IMO, there are plenty of better ways and means.

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    Has anyone heard of an ND that can be attributed to a clipdraw? What kind of funny stuff would one have to have going on in their pants to actuate a long-pull trigger? If someone were concerned, I would think a glock safe-t-block would cover that. I'd probably even use one for uber-redundancy if that made one for the XD, but don't feel unsafe whatsoever once the weapon is "holstered." I do take care to keep my hand off the grip-safety that the glocks lack....
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    I have a Kel Tec P11 and use the K tec factory clip.
    It works, and for the life of me Cannot see how one would have An AD/ND, UNLESS you inadverdantly put your finger on the trigger while drawing, which might also happen with a conventional holster.
    I don't think I would use one with an exposed hammer-fired weapon, Revolver-1911-or something with an exposed hammer, that did not have a Decocker


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    I suppose the XD, which has a grip safety, might be less likely to ND if just jammed behind my belt, but I personally would not carry this way without a trigger guard. Thus if I wanted to carry this way I'd probably get a Zack Concealment Holster. You loop the cord around your belt, snap the "holster" over your trigger guard (thereby shielding the trigger), and insert the gun behind your belt. During the draw the "holster" is pulled off the trigger guard, thereby exposing the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcake View Post
    Has anyone heard of an ND that can be attributed to a clipdraw? What kind of funny stuff would one have to have going on in their pants to actuate a long-pull trigger? If someone were concerned, I would think a glock safe-t-block would cover that. I'd probably even use one for uber-redundancy if that made one for the XD, but don't feel unsafe whatsoever once the weapon is "holstered." I do take care to keep my hand off the grip-safety that the glocks lack....
    From another forum: ND at Church Tonight

    So I'm standing in the sound booth at church after service tonight when a lady from my small group walks up and says, "Kevin - is there any thing we need to do if a gun went off in class?" I almost thought she was kidding, until I realized she was shaking ever so slightly. There are several police officers in my small group and most of the rest of the class took their CHL class together, so it's a possibility. I ask her if anyone is hurt - she says no, it just went straight into the floor. Then I tell her I'll contact security and let them know.

    After the head of security catches up with me, I let him know what I know and he calls over the uniformed police officers. After a little pow-wow they decide the best route would be for me to go into the room and ask the guy who did it to come out and talk to them (rather than disturbing the whole class, since they decided to go on with their night). I walk in and ask the guy to come out in the hall. He's visited a couple of times, but I don't really know him - turns out he's a cop. The cops pull him into my office (since it was nearby) and examine him and the gun to make sure he's alright. Turns out he was shifting his Kel Tec P32 from where it was clipped onto his waist band and putting it in his holster. It apparently went off when he pulled it out, because there's a hole right in the middle of [edited] his pants
    In a later post, it was confirmed a "bolt on clip"
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    Clip draw as money clip

    I have been using my clip draw on my Glock 17 for years.

    It works GREAT as a money clip when used in a GOOD leather holster.

    You should see the would be burglars face when he asks for my wallet.

    Problem solved.

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    I too have used the belt clip for the Kel-Tec P-11. The P-11 has a double action only trigger pull that is somewhat long and stiff. It is basically a double action revolver with a magazine instead of a cylinder. I carry it with the gun under my trousers with the belt clip over the upper waist band of the trousers and under the belt at the 3 o-clock position. It is very comfortable and conceals nicely under any untucked shirt. This method of carry is also convenient as there is no holster to have to be threaded on my belt or attached in any way when returning home or heading out. I just loosen my belt one notch and carefully position the gun under the waistband with a forward slant. I usually try to tuck the clip through under the 3 o-clock belt loop from front to back to help maintain the cant, though this is not really necessary. This is my preferred form of carry 90 % of the time. I also have a Milt Sparks VMII for my lightweight commander that I sometimes carry. It is a very nice and comfortable holster!! But I still find myself shunning it in favor of the ease of just tucking the P-11 uner my waistband without having to fool with putting on the holsther then inserting the commander.

    The belt clip on the P-11 works for me!

    I also have a belt clip for the 1911 but I have never tried it??

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