Have you ever
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May 9th, 2010 09:27 AM
Have you ever
Tried drawing from your EDC holster while laying flat on your back or up against a wall or vehicle? Most holsters and traditional carry positions are meant to work the best when standing up right and stationary. Sometimes that is just not the way it happens- George
May 9th, 2010 09:27 AM
May 9th, 2010 09:29 AM
Also (for me anyways) validates my point of a second gun.
May 9th, 2010 09:43 AM
Appendix or crossdraw carry will solve that issue.
What we've got here is failure to communicate.
May 9th, 2010 10:06 AM
That can be a REAL problem for LEO's with level two and level three holsters. Just had a discussion about that with our school RO.
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May 9th, 2010 10:57 AM
I actually have not tried that and now I feel remiss in my prep.
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May 9th, 2010 11:22 AM
Yes. It's a challange but overcome with some forethought and practice.
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May 9th, 2010 03:09 PM
For sure! Watching people trying to draw from bucket seats with a center console, with a coat on, under a seat belt is entertaining to say the least. A little forethought with practice makes it much easier.
Originally Posted by goldshellback
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May 9th, 2010 04:54 PM
+1 on the second gun.
Another pistol in the pocket or appendix might be readily accessible,
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May 9th, 2010 05:11 PM
Yes...and that is why your non-drawing hand is used to fend off an attack until able to draw (up against a car). Also practice shooting from a supine (on back) position.
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May 9th, 2010 07:15 PM
I don't have a problem drawing on my back or on a flat surface llike a wall. I guess its because I carry a OWB holster.
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May 9th, 2010 08:41 PM
Yes, appendix does cure the majority of these issues. The IWB behind the hip can be quite troublesome. Believing you can choose your position during a confrontation is the same as believing you can do the same during a car accident.- George
May 9th, 2010 09:29 PM
I like that....I like it a lot! I've been carrying appendix for about a month now since I've found the best holster for me to do that with. I can even draw effectively while seated in my vehicle. Done it time and again.
Originally Posted by los
May 9th, 2010 09:30 PM
I have watched some pretty techniques on tactical impact or handguns or one of those shows that involve removing seat belt and drawing, I have tried them staticly, not up to full speed yet but, they work, and what I have found from my own practice is that you have to really really want to get your gun out when in that situation, body movement can make or break this situation.
I have been advised not to carry OWB in the 4 or 5 o'clock position due to some support side drawing drills that involve turning belt in your pants to bring your holster closer to 1-2 o'clock. That could factor into this OP question too. Have you tried drawing from those positions with your support side.
I have not. I will, but have not yet. No intent to hijack George.
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May 9th, 2010 09:47 PM
I carry OWB behind the hip & due to the way I'm set up with more "forward cant" than is typical - I need to begin my draw from leather with my support side hand from BEHIND THE BACK...without an ideal grip on my firearm, then momentarily rest the muzzle on the mouth of the holster, then attain my ideal grip & then go to a one handed presentation on my support side without muzzle-crossing myself.
Since I'm fairly ambidextrous (and can even write and perform most tasks about equally (but, not quite) equally with either my left or right hand) it's not a super difficult task.
It's possible to accomplish safely and successfully with a goodly amount of practice...and I do practice it often but, having an easy access BUG on my support side is my more viable and preferred option.
So I always carry a BUG.
It's an advantage to have more than one workable and practiced option.
Regarding: "laying flat on your back or up against a wall or vehicle"
I've not found to be too very problematic.
May 10th, 2010 01:28 AM
I've done some practice drawing from the seated position in my vehicle... I carry IWB at about 3:30 and I started using a blue gun, getting the draw sequence down. It's harder than you might think especially when you have to release the seatbelt. Easy to get tangled there! But I got to where I could draw and fire in under 4 seconds. Certainly no speed record but it's doable!
I haven't tried laying down or hunched up against a wall, gonna have to see how that plays one of these days!
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