Okay, I doubted the claims on the Remora website and even some of the posts here. How in the world could this holster stay put and allow smooth draws while tucked in the waistband of a pair of drawstring shorts/ pants? Well, IT WORKS. I just got my Remora for my Glock G36 and have been used it while running around town the last couple of days. I quickly found that it works best when the body side of the holster is directly against the skin rather than against a t shirt or boxers. It does not shift or slip and allows a smooth draw while the holster stays put. Great holster for casual, non strenuous activities.
well, I just ordered the Remora Holster. I placed the order on-line at 0906hrs and I received an email saying that the package has been shipped at 0922hrs. 16 minutes, are you kidding, how do you beat that!!!!!! I went with the first Remora not the RFT. I do not like things to be bunched up or bulging, so I went with the flat one. Through my training, the past 18yrs I have ALWAYS been taught to cover your target and to scan never reholster. So, God forbid if I ever need my off-duty piece, I am not worried about reholstering. Thanks for the thread on this holster and I can not wait. Now I wish I did not waist $85 on the CBMT. Oh well..............
Let us know when you get it, and how you like it. If it was everything you were thinking of. I think the folks at Remora (Alan) are bending over backwards to make customer satisfaction the number one priority, and they have a great product that's innovative and simple. Earlier this year when I stumbled into the Remora holsters, and got my first one, I was eager and anxious myself. That first holster and communicating with the manufacturer (owner) about my specifics for my personal carry and how it could be tailored to me was met with equal enthusiasm, and I've been carrying with this holster ever since, and I was merely thinking of warm weather carry. It's now my go-to holster, and I carry with it more than I ever have anything else. I've seldom worn any particular holster/pistol combo for more than a couple of months. The Remora filled a niche for me, and I've been going eight months without grabbing something else out of the drawer. Just like Gunzilla was an enlightenment for me, the Remora holster was an epiphany. I just can't shake it. Appendix carry has never been better for me and my G27. I'm simply at home with it.
I've never seen the video, but I'm going to watch it. Thanks for the link.
Excellent review on the Remora holsters! I've known all of this for a while now.
Ramrod you are right, the CS at remora is fantastic. I called Alan yesterday to talk with him about the holster I ordered. He was unbelievable. We started talking and I told him I was a city cop and needed to carry, but hated carrying because of comfort. He told me that he wanted to give me the LEO discount and refused. I told him that I do not mind paying what everyone else pays. I got that from my upbringing. He then said, I am throwing in a free magazine for you then, and he told me to be careful. HOLYCOW. This guy is unbelievable and I can not say enough great things about him. I can not wait to get my holster. I ordered the one without the RFT because I do not like anything bunched up on me. But I might just order the RFT one too because this guy is so great and I want to help his company out. I am going to tell everyone at my department about this guy and remora's.
Glad you talked to the main man. Glad you like the personal service. Alan is something else. Not many like him these days, but if you want to grow a business and stay in the business, a good product is a head start, but customer service is always the bottom line. Alan knows this more than anything.
IMO.........I would have taken him up on the LEO discount, but I understand you and where you're coming from. Have the same ideals myself. I offer discounts on services to LEOs as well. Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes you've got to realize how others think about those in service and whom wish to show respect for that any way they can. The chance for them to do so doesn't come every day.
Anyway.....I'm glad you and Alan had a good talk. I hope your holster serves you well, and you'll carry more (off duty?) because of it. Comfort was what was a hit for me as well with the Remora, and my preferred appendix carry for my G27. My carry days (10+ years) have never changed so dramatically since the Remora holsters came out. Just a personal experience.
You'll have your holster in no time. I hope you like it, and it's everything you need. IMO......if a regular citizen feels the need to carry......I'd think any off duty LEO would as well, especially getting a more broad sampling of society, and most times more of the down side of things. If comfort is holding you back, then in my opinion....you need to find a way. May be difficult to separate the job from time off. But your face is the same whether wearing a uniform, or shorts and sweats. I personally think an off duty LEO in public is more at risk than the general public in public. Whenever there's increased risks, one should look for an advantage IMO. Take every one you can get and make good use of it. I can only imagine being in your shoes.
Has anyone ordered one with the sweat shield? I am seriously considering this as I live in FL and with the (normal) heat and humidity I rarely wear two layers, so it would be up against my skin. How does it feel against the skin?
Here's mine with a modified sweat shield. Works great. As for feel, I don't have any issues with it against the skin although on a hot sticky day it might remind you of removing a rubber bath mat from the bottom of a bathtub. LOL Seriously from what I've read elsewhere some are bothered and some aren't. I'm in the later category.
I just purchased my third Remora no-clip from Alan, this one for a LCP. I have one for my PM9 with CT laserguard and another for my G26 with extra mag pocket and sweat shield. I must say I am impressed with these simple and practical carry holsters. If they hold up in the long run I will be totally satisfied since they truely stay put the waistband with "no clip" as advertised. Great product at a very competitive price. And another thing I really like is the holster for the PM9 also works well with my CZ RAMI!
I want to get one for my PM9 w/CT also. Is the Series 6 the correct one? If so, I like the fact that I can use it for my G33 as well according to the Remora site. Also, what's everyones opinion on the RFT option? I'm going to tuck at times if that matters. I like the extra mag pouch option but I won't carry a mag in there since I usually carry my extra mag weakside. I'm thinking the extra pouch would be good for a knife, flashlight or pepper spray if my pocket room is limited. Are the models with the extra pouch too bulky?
Thanks for any input.
Edit: With all the stuff I carry, I wonder if they can make one to hold my iPhone? That would be very convenient.
I received my Remora Holster #4 with SS on Monday. I have worn it for one week. It is fantastic, no movement at all. I was thinking of getting a #4 without the SS. Does anyone know if there is a big difference between the SS and no SS. I carry a PM40, and the gun/holster is very light. I also received a free double mag holder and a single mag holder. Alan is a great guy and really knows how to make his customers happy.
I've got 2 #11's, one with the SS & one without. I know I'll never get one without the SS again, as I don't like my gun actually touching my skin. It's worth the extra $5 to me without a doubt.
Has anyone tested this holster to the extreme? Such as moving and shooting under pressure while wearing what you would normally wear day to day? Moving then drawing while moving repeatedly to ensure it doesn't come out with the weapon? One time is all it takes. I am interested but a slight bit skeptical.
Last night I really put the holster to the test. I always wear jeans and a shirt pulled out, so concealing for me is very easy. My wife knows I carry, and I usually lock the gun up when I put my sweats on and start getting ready for bed. Last night, I put sweats and a T-shirt on, and slipped the holster in with my PM40 at 4:00 where I always carry. I walked around the house and sat next to her on the couch, gun side to her. I was trying to see if she noticed. She never did. The holster also never moved. It is very comfortable and does not move. What a great holster.
Something just occurred to me... what is retention like on these holsters, I'm too old and fat to roll around on the ground, but I dont want the gun falling on the floor when I bend to tie my shoe either.
The frictional force that keeps the holster in place is the component of force that is 'normal' (at right angles to the body) to the holster times the coefficient of friction. If it is tucked in your belt and you have your belt normally tight it will not move. If your belt is loose or loosens up because the buckle fails or something, or you drop trou in the restroom, the holster will shift. The retention of the weapon within the holster is just fine. i have not had the least trouble with it during normal activities. Look at the video links referenced above in #131 The activity shown there is much more than bending over to tie your shoes. The typical response to all this discussion is mild to moderate skepticism until you actually try one out and then it shifs to moderate amazement that the simple thing works so well. If you are going to do a lot of IDPA or other activity that requires frequent reholstering, order the reinforced opening version of the holster. Bottom line, it's an amazing product at a very reasonable price from a company with first rate customer service and a super warranty. Try it; you'll like it!
I've had my Remora for my G-30SF for about a month now. I've tried it several ways and this is what works best for me. I wear it on my weak side at about 2:30 with a lot of forward cant. That way I can cross draw and it is real comfortable bending, siting or laying down on the couch. By using it as a cross draw holster, I can pocket carry my S&W 342 in my strong side pocket. For those of you who worry about the lack of safety on your Glocks and the softness of the Remora, I have been carrying with a MIC on my G-30SF, the retention cord attached to my belt. That way the trigger is completely protected and in the extremely unlikely event the gun falls out of the Remora, it will be tethered to me by the retention cord. I've practiced drawing and it's a "snap". I'm sure once you try one, the only thing that will stop you from using it will be getting over the ego thing about not having an expensive, beautifully tooled, custom leather holster. Having an ugly Glock makes it a no brainer. LOL!
I'd like to know as well and I have read all 8 pages. Most of what I carry has some "heft" to it. No Tupperware in my safe and that seems to be the trend with these Remora holsters. I did see a member with a micro compact Springfield, but how about a full size or even a Commander size for that matter?
I'm more than a bit skeptical that a drawstring in my sweats is going to hold up my Officer's model or my P229.
The #2 I have with both mag pouch and short sweat shield is the first I've ever had with a "mated" mag pouch. I concur in general with your advice. But since the Remora was bought for those instances where my BUG (a Sig P238) couldn't be carried with my leather front pocket RKBA holster, such as lounge / sweat pants, shorts, etc., having the spare mag in the same small kit is simply part of the same convenience / compromise. To be clear, for normal IWB wear with my 1911s / BHPs, spare mags are in a suitable separate IWB pouch
To somewhat answer, redirect, or simply voice my opinion on the last couple of replies, at once, I'll make a feeble attempt.
First off, I personally don't care for any holster with an integral spare magazine holder attached to it. Plain and simple, my spare mags always get carried weak side for the reload. Now........since I look at things with an open mind, and even a fan of cross draw in certain circumstances, that's one of the times I might see the holster/mag combo being an effective choice........but....I'm also a minimalist in ways when it comes to carrying IWB, and the combo holster would have to fit and feel well, and not take up much more waist space than a holster alone. With the Remora and cross draw.....I might see the advantage of the holster/mag combo in one package. Hey....I'm all for the Remora holsters for my specifics, and I'm sure the manufacturer wants to offer as many options as possible, and I'm sure many folks have gone for those options due to how they carry. The pistol/integral mag holder is by no means just a gimmick because I can see a purpose behind it.......for others and even myself. I just have no reason to use one for strong side carry and to cross draw my spare magazine with the weak hand. That's just me, my 10 years of carrying and experimenting, developing habits, and using the same motions practicing with CC and in competition. No reason why anyone else shouldn't learn on their own or make their own habits starting out, and finding what's right for them despite certain schools of thought or advice. The human mind and body will almost always work well with what's more natural. While I've always been a fan of thinking outside the box....I'll tell you it won't come with ease. A box is well defined....outside the box is not, because it involves everything that can't be put in a box. Plenty of free energy still out there and it will never be used up.
As for the 1911 in a Remora holster while wearing sweat pants with a drawstring...............................................I personally don't think I'd be carrying my full size P220 like that. While we've seen replies about the wearing sweatpants and the Remora holster and carrying.......I don't think it was actually designed for that purpose. Still though.......... it seems some have found a niche in that department with some. Whatever works for you is good. Whatever works for someone else is no reason for us to disbelieve in them nor to pull off their wings, or shoot holes in their theories because they don't seem to conform. By all rights (just my opinion again).....we should all be part of a collective thought process by now. Sharing what we know and have experienced ourselves with each other, simply with the untapped powers of our brains. We still depend in visuals and words as this keeps us simple and unaware of our own true powers. Technology advances more than the human race these days! How can that be since we create technology? Or is it the aliens creating technology while we just stare in awe? We're smarter than we think. What we think often keeps us from becoming smarter.
I ordered the Remora 2A for my Kahr P380 with Crimson Trace LaserGuard earlier this week. It shipped very quickly and arrived in several days. I originally bought it for my Ruger LCP with LaserGuard to see if it was more comfortable (and stable) than just using the Kel-Tec clipdraw. The Remora was MUCH more comfortable and it stayed in place all day. I even ran across the street a few times and the position did not change in the slightest. I'm still trying to find the perfect cant and position, but I'm impressed so far.
I'm actually thinking of buying one for my Kahr PM9 to see if it is more comfortable than my CrossBreed MiniTuck.
A few weeks ago RamRod sent me two Remora #6 holsters to try out. He sent me the Reinforced (RFT) and the Regular. In summary, I liked it so much I bought the #6 un-reinforced from him and ordered another holster for an upcoming revolver purchase.
Initially I was very skeptical about the whole idea. I'm the kind of guy who prefers not to remove a loaded gun from it's holster ever... so I'm always looking for easy on-off rigs that aren't too huge. However I've always preferred Kydex because I just feel like it protects my Glock trigger the best. I was initially worried that the soft-side holster would allow the trigger to move somehow.
When I got the Remora, the first thing I did was unload my Carry G30sf and then put it into the holster. Before even trying it on, I squeezed around the trigger area in every possible way I could think trying to make the trigger move and dryfire the pistol. It turned out to be simply impossible. It passed test #1.
The second concern I had was that there is no real retention to speak of with the Remora when it is not IWB. I was worried the pistol may slide out of the holster. Well that concern was also alleviated as soon as I put the Remora IWB and held it in place with my Wilderness Tactical belt. The retention was not as good as my CBST, MTAC or Infidel, but it was quite snug. Doing jumping jacks with the unloaded gun still strapped on didn't make the gun budge a mm. As far as the holster itself shifting in my pants... not going to happen. The rubber grips onto my clothes like... glue. When underneath a quality gunbelt this holster is every bit as stable IWB as anything else I've ever worn... and quite a bit more comfortable.
Unlike my infidel, the soft-sided Remora doesn't poke my legs. The Remora's design also allows me to put the holster exactly on my body where I want with whatever can't I want without having to futz around too much. Different pant's belt-loop locations have no bearing. All in all I think it a pretty good option.
Comfort: 5/5 Ride: 5/5 (I can have it ride as high or low as I want, I prefer low-ride for concealability) Retention: 2/5 Not great, but adequate. I'm just addicted to the positive snap of a Comp-tac infidel or Raven Phantom. Staying Put: 5/5 Nothing is making this thing shift in my pants. Combat Grip: 4/5 I don't have as good of a grip with this non-artemis version as I do with say my Raven Phantom, but part of that may be to the low-ride. Slight re-gripping may be necessary for me on draw but no big deal.
Conclusion: Well, I'm wearing it right now. In the past week it has seen more carry time for my G30sf than any other holster in my collection... that means quite a bit.
Suggestions: An optional Retention strap might be a nice touch. I'd love to see an optional Velcro or Button snap retention snap for this thing. Not sure how that would work though.
Kydex holster style retention would be perfect. Perhaps if the folks from Fist could cram their Ultra-thin Kydex inside the Remora material. With that joint-venture we'd have the perfect CCW holster.
Tokerblue,
I have a Kahr PM40 and I also had a CBMT. I returned it after three days because I also bought the Remora. There was no comparison. The CBMT was very uncomfortable compared to the Remora. You will love the Remora. I forget I am carrying my gun with the Remora. Often my wife asks if I am carrying because she can not see it. I have even carried it in my sweats with a T-shirt. Get one, you will love it for the PM9. I love mine for the PM40.
- I'm still debating it. I wore the my CBMT today with my PM9 and it's still more comfortable than my P380 in the Remora. But my MiniTuck has been broken in from numerous uses.
I appreciate the continued reviews on the Remora holsters. It helps me keep my credibility as it were. I'll admit to being a skeptic myself. You know.......skeptics generally get more out of a surprise when found. Skeptics generally try harder than most to disprove something, or to test something more than average in hopes of the slightest failure of meeting their expectations. Since I've joined this forum, I've found two things in life that make things a whole lot easier for me that I was skeptical of at first. Gunzilla, and Remora holsters. New products and innovations used to take a long time getting to market and getting feedback. Word of mouth was mainly on the street despite attractive advertisements. Now, word of mouth is available any time one does a search on the internet. World's best market now it seems. Forums are a good place to find out many things with more reviews than you can Google. That's why you might think about a last minute gift of support to this forum to keep it alive and through the upcoming year. Just think of some simple support as savings in the future, or savings you've already found for being here. Christmas is a time for giving.........how much more could $10 get you? 3 gallons of gasoline? A couple of DVD rentals?
This may be the wrong thread for me to give more than one plug....but the time seems fit to do so. Keep it alive, and I'm almost sure there will be plenty of new things in the upcoming year. Speaking of new year.........$10 will only buy you a cheap bottle of wine or champagne. Spend it here before your friends or family have a chance to call you cheap! LOL!
BTW.......I got out of my Remora holster this past Saturday and into my Scorpion with my G23. Felt good, just as I remember, but that was just one day out of the last six months or so. My Remora is hard to shake....ever since I got it.
I was at the LGS a couple of weeks ago and was able to pick up a couple of Remora holsters. A #6 for my HK USPc .40 and a #4 for my PM9. Both work very well. While the HK holster feels very secure, it doesn't feel as comfortable as my CBST. I will probably rely more on the ST for normal use and use the Remora for quick trips. The PM9 holster on the other hand is great. I can hardly feel it on my hip. While I still like my CB MiniTuck, the Remora will probably see more use.
Well, after reading thru this thread and a few other threads in other forums, plus watching the average joe video, I decided to call Alan to discuss which of his products would best fit my needs. Alan was a true gentleman, and took his time to discuss all the options. I immediately placed my order online after speaking with him.
I will update you all once I have had a chance to try out the holster and mag holder that I ordered for my Glock 19.
Okay - I know I mentioned about three pages back I'd put up my review, so here it goes. Sorry it's been a long time coming, I've been off the grid so-to-speak for a while.
My EDC is a Stoeger Cougar 8000F 9mm. IMHO, the pistol has some heft weighing in at just over 32 oz. (empty) so I was skeptical about how well the Remora holster would perform during use. Normally I employ the use of my CBST, and after trying the Remora #10 (w/ sweat shield) I don't think I will be changing anything. The holster is GREAT for short errands and chores, but when it comes to longtime wear it pales in comparison regarding comfort to the CBST. The comfort issue can be remedied with a simple location change, but then there's the hand off in concealment. I would rather conceal well while being uncomfortable than vice versa, which is why I prefer short time use of the Remora. Also, the pistol "hugs" much less than when riding in the CBST, so concealment is very difficult with my normal t-shirt or polo w/ jeans attire. Now, YMMV due to the fact that everyone has different carry modes, physiques, likes, dislikes, etc... It's just that my preferences and current rig aren't really suited for the Remora. Something that I do like and that has been repeatedly mentioned within this thread is that this thing STAYS where you put it - the texturing Alan has designed for his product is awesome, no doubt about that. Even with my heavier & larger EDC pistol, the clip-less design works - no undesired movement. So as stated, the Remora is my go-to for short use situations, but I'm not changing my EDC carry mode or gear at this time.
I was waiting for someone to post one with carrying a larger weapon.
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