You made it all possible. Matching materials would have been impossible to get. Thank you. Your stuff is really thick. Trying to get it broken in but it seems like it's just gonna take time. I'd post pics but I'm on the cell right now. I'm happy I did this. Got what I wanted the first time. I always invest in good leather for my guns and try to make them something unique. I think I/we accomplished that. The grips do have some pop to em, huh. And w/ the polished feed ramp and Permanent Pistol Treatment by GunDoctor (Crusader Armory), these pistols are running perfect! Thanks Luke! Let me know on the 686+. No hurry I saw you are on your way back North. You and yours take care!