This is a discussion on Holster help...PLEASE within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I have a S&W M&P9c complete with a "Dan Burwell" trigger job and stippling. I love the gun, love shooting it, and actually shoot it ...
I have a S&W M&P9c complete with a "Dan Burwell" trigger job and stippling. I love the gun, love shooting it, and actually shoot it very well. Problem is I can't stand to carry it. I've mentioned it here in a couple of posts in the past. It seems like it's too heavy, always pulling my pants down. I have only carried it IWB. I have a "Remora" for it ( which is what I use for the bodyguard also and love it) and also bought a Galco IWB from Smith & Wesson. The Galco actually seems to be worse for pulling down my pants. Would switching to an OWB solve this? I feel like when I carry it I spend my entire day tugging at my pants. Because of this I just don't carry it at all. I carry my S&W Bodyguard revolver, which is super light and comfortable. Is the weight just something I need to "get used to" or is there a cure?
Any advise would be appreciated.
You need a good belt and a holster (IWB or OWB) with the mounting points further away from the body of the holster. Only reason I mention the belt as you mention different guns and holsters, but nothing about the belt.
What kind of Galco did you get? Some of Galco's stuff is really, really good. Other stuff from them...not so much.
Sounds like you might need a good belt? I carry a SA XD40 SC all the time, and it's not the lightest gun out there. I spent a little money and got a Pure Kustom Black Ops Pro holster and I love it. Worth checking out, link at top of this page.
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You need a good belt and a holster (IWB or OWB) with the mounting points further away from the body of the holster. Only reason I mention the belt as you mention different guns and holsters, but nothing about the belt.
What kind of Galco did you get? Some of Galco's stuff is really, really good. Other stuff from them...not so much.
The belts I use are not gun belts, but are pretty thick, stiff belts. You know another thought came to mind, I'm like most men in their late fifties, I have a belly. Not huge, but a belly none the less. You know, I wear my pants higher in the back and under my belly in the front. Wondering if this is adding to the problem.
I have a S&W M&P9c complete with a "Dan Burwell" trigger job and stippling. I love the gun, love shooting it, and actually shoot it very well. Problem is I can't stand to carry it. I've mentioned it here in a couple of posts in the past. It seems like it's too heavy, always pulling my pants down. I have only carried it IWB. I have a "Remora" for it ( which is what I use for the bodyguard also and love it) and also bought a Galco IWB from Smith & Wesson. The Galco actually seems to be worse for pulling down my pants. Would switching to an OWB solve this? I feel like when I carry it I spend my entire day tugging at my pants. Because of this I just don't carry it at all. I carry my S&W Bodyguard revolver, which is super light and comfortable. Is the weight just something I need to "get used to" or is there a cure?
Any advise would be appreciated.
IWB or OWB without a gun belt, it will never be comfortable. I tried MANY heavy thick belts because I was too cheap to buy a gun belt, there is no substitute. Also a holster with only one clip will put all the gun weight in the exact spot you carry. I carried that way with my first gun and It's not for me. Whether a hybrid or not the two clip design spreads the weight out evenly and makes a HUGE difference. When I carry my M&P40FS It's in a Kholster and I usually forget it's there. A lot of people tell you carrying is never comfortable and that it's not supposed to be, dress around your gun etc... Don't buy that crap, Right size gun for your body type plus a good belt/holster combo and you''ll be comfortable all day long. I took a pic of my M&P in it's holster in pants being held with a thick but NOT a gun belt even then it's not sagging. With one, and you wearing the pants it doesn't move at all. I was to lazy to take mine off for an actual pic but that actual gives you a better idea of the weight distribution.
The belts I use are not gun belts, but are pretty thick, stiff belts. You know another thought came to mind, I'm like most men in their late fifties, I have a belly. Not huge, but a belly none the less. You know, I wear my pants higher in the back and under my belly in the front. Wondering if this is adding to the problem.
Yeah, that holster is less than ideal for anything less than a pocket sized/ultra lightweight gun. Wider mounting points, and a better belt should help a lot.
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I have an M&Pc also. I carry it comfortably using a Comp-Tac, M-Tac holster, and one of their belts. The belt makes the difference. For OWB, I use an enhanced pancake from Lobo Gun Leather. Either way, the belt is key. If you still have issues, you can try wearing suspenders under your cover garment. (I wear them right on the skin under my shirt, to take some pressure off my lower back.)
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Because of this I just don't carry it at all. I carry my S&W Bodyguard revolver, which is super light and comfortable.
Any advise would be appreciated.
Clint Smith from Thunder Ranch has the best explanation for this I have ever heard. He says it isn't going to be comfortable, but it will be comforting should you have to defend your life. With a good belt you should be just fine. The M&P 9c is a light gun compared to a lot of others out there. I carry a Commander length 45 and it is not a problem. It is heavy, but I prefer the largest gun I can conceal.
But hey, if you just can't get it where you like it, then carry the bodyguard. Something is better than nothing.
I agree with JD and having two mounting positions away from the gun. With a heavier gun, I think only one attachment point to the belt is inadequate. Of the holsters I have, the Milt Sparks VM2 and the Comp-Tac CTAC might be good options for you.
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