Tex Grebner : SERPA : Bullets to the leg

This is a discussion on Tex Grebner : SERPA : Bullets to the leg within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I wanted to create a video about the SERPA holster and the incident where Tex Grebner accidentally shoots himself in the leg while using a ...

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    Tex Grebner : SERPA : Bullets to the leg

    I wanted to create a video about the SERPA holster and the incident where Tex Grebner accidentally shoots himself in the leg while using a Kimber 1911 in a SERPA belt holster. Here's the original video posted by Tex Grebner:

    ‪I shot myself! Original Upload!‬‏ - YouTube

    I've owned SERPA holsters for many years and I own 5 of them for various handguns. I'm always tempted by their low cost and what I believe to be ease of use. But I've also come to realize they have some inherent flaws.



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    very nice video, very educational.. Thanks for posting that!

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    Never was a fan of the Serpas. Never will be. Thumb breaks are operated with a natural movement not using the trigger finger. For me, they are a better design.

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    That's a good review of the potential problems with the SERPA.

    I have one. I have not used it much. My problem is that I have such tiny hands and fingers I can barely reach the release button and find myself reaching for it and I simply don't like having my trigger finger doing anything but operating the trigger.

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    So when it's the SERPA it's a design flaw when it's the Safariland it's a design plus; that upward tension on the gun keeps it in the retention holster. The SERPA does not secure from tension against, but rides a protrusion to the inside of, the trigger guard.

    Being open to improvement in technique or equipment, and mindful of the need to make sure I continue evolving my training. I've tried real hard to make my SEPRA holster fail since it seemed to be bash the SERPA weekend on DC, tried and tried with an unloaded firearm and couldn't make it jam unless I didn't press the button (i.e. the retention I purchased the holster for) or in an unnatural manner went out of my way to hold down the wrong side of the lever, then requiring a second hand to make an attempt to grab the gun, which it couldn't because of being retained by both my hand and design working together, sand rock gravel I could not get the button to fail to work, as it just fell through the hole and against the frame and slide then out the bottom of the holster. Not once did my finger end up anywhere other than the dent in the frame at the slide lock on the Glock; exactly where I want it to be.

    I did make mention of it in a past thread that the SERPA does seem to be more conducive to some firearm designs more than others, I think largely do to individual characteristics in trigger guard design.
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    Tex deserves a lot of credit for posting the ND video. I betcha most of us have been out in the field doing exactly what he was doing. I did that type of drill for years, practicing for IPSC competitions.

    Gotta keep the finger away from the trigger until ready to fire - that's my main concern.

    Thanks for posting!
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    Very interesting, informative, and well made video. I must have smaller hands than you, as I've never had that problem with having to curl my finger--I always keep it straight and I've never had it end up anywhere but alongside the slide. . Also, when I do use my Blackhawk (which I admit isn't very often now) I have it vertical, rather than canted forward. I prefer my Galco Avenger for my Kimber over the SERPA. I just like leather better. But you did an excellent job with the video.
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    Good job on the analysis and video - well done!

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    Very informative,Tex actually stated he was using 2 different holsters and guns,the first retention holster used a thumb type release,then when he used the Serpa holster he inadvertently flicked the thumb safety off before drawing which also set him up for the AD.I don't own or use a Serpa,but there are several that do,I like leather
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    I own a Serpa but will never carry it. I get inconsistent draws from the holster, it feels like it could fall apart on my hip at anytime. No thanks I will stick to leather or my Crossbreed. ;)
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    I think this is one of the most informative posts/videos I've seen yet...good job. I've never used the serpa and now I've got a good idea how Tex's ND occured...cudos military arms.

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    Excellent job.
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    I'm not a fan of any retention holsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zacii View Post
    I'm not a fan of any retention holsters.
    I agree, and especially not being in LE, I see no need for that type of holster.OMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by canav844 View Post
    ...sand rock gravel I could not get the button to fail to work, as it just fell through the hole and against the frame and slide then out the bottom of the holster.
    You won't have to look far to find reports of gravel and other debris tying up a Serpa. Trying to make it happen yourself is like trying to get your car to make "that" noise when you have it in the shop.
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