Vertical Shoulder Holster
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Been thinking of a shoulder holster and trying ...
August 4th, 2006 06:55 PM
Vertical Shoulder Holster
Anyone use one looks like they would be great for concealment but awkward to draw from ??
Been thinking of a shoulder holster and trying to decide between the Vertical and Horizontal models
August 4th, 2006 07:58 PM
Here is my experience with shoulder holsters...
Horizontal Holster: (DeSantis leather harness with nylon holster and mag carrier used for compact 9mm 3.25 barrel)
Pros: Seems "natural" to obtain firing grip. I am definitely faster drawing from a horizontal holster.
Cons: Rear of gun will be pointed at whatever is behind you. Longer barreled guns seem to print pretty bad.
Vertical Holster: (Galco VHS used for Beretta 92)
Pros: Can better conceal longer barreled gun. Gun is most often pointing down.
Cons: I am not as fast on the draw. Retention system on mine (which I think is typical) is more difficult and time consuming than the thumb break I use on my horizontal holster.
These are just my limited observations.
May I ask what gun are you planning on using with it?
Last edited by John Wesley; August 4th, 2006 at 08:37 PM.
August 4th, 2006 08:03 PM
August 4th, 2006 08:27 PM
I am not a big guy. I am fairly certain that the barrel on a 1911 would tend to print for me if using a horizontal system. That is a problem I had with my Beretta. (approximately 5 in barrel.) Depending on your build, you might get away with it better than I could.
I went to a vertical system for the Beretta and it works well except that I feel that I am faster and more confident with the horizontal holster.
You could try both styles in cheaper nylon rigs and see which you prefer. Then you could invest in a more comfortable (and more expensive) leather rig. OR...
Buy a leather harness and get inexpensive nylon holsters in both vertical and horizontal formats and try them both. (Make sure they are compatible with your harness of course.)
With my horizontal rig, I actually prefer the nylon holster (with the leather harness) to an actual leather holster.
I also prefer tie-downs but none were available for the Galco VHS system. I can get pretty active and the gun flopping around slightly annoys me. (On the flip side, tie downs can be slightly annoying if you need a serious "bathroom break".)
For driving and places where you can keep a concealing garment on, the shoulder holster is my number one choice!
Good luck.. I am sure you will a lot more responses shortly!
Oh, one last thing... the "wider" harnesses DO seem to be a slight bit more comfortable BUT they tend not to conceal quite as well. If my sports jacket moves to the side a bit, the wider straps become visable more quickly than the narrow ones.... I'll be quiet for a while and let you get some other opinions!
Last edited by John Wesley; August 4th, 2006 at 08:40 PM.
August 4th, 2006 08:48 PM
i have a Cheapy Horizontal and i can carry either 1911 or glock in it.
I feel like what you are saying that muzzle is poking out .. everyone i ask says they cant see it but that way it feels.
So thats why I'm asking about a vertical
August 4th, 2006 08:59 PM
I tried a verticle carry and now if I carry a shoulder holster its a Andrews or Galco horizontal rig. I'm not that "thick" but I dont have a problem printing. As for the muzzle pointing at whats behind you. Your finger is off the trigger so it wont go bang. Only dangerous times are the draw (keep the finger off the trigger) and the holster (point it in a safe direction).
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August 4th, 2006 09:06 PM
Yes, Bud, you are right. In my case, I didn't realize the muzzle was poking out. A friend told me. They had noticed it several times. I tried to adjust it but couldn't seem to keep it from being noticed. (I could see it too once my friend pointed it out.)
I prefer the horizonal rig unless it prints or I will be removing my covering garment and am concerned about freaking anyone out who gets behind me. (I am talking about trusted friends here.)
I agree with you Steve. The gun is not going to "go off by itself". I went camping once wearing the horizontal rig and when I removed my jacket and walked around exposed the rest of the party seemed a bit uneasy. The vertical rig doesn't bother them.
Last edited by John Wesley; August 4th, 2006 at 09:15 PM.
August 5th, 2006 12:02 AM
My vertical is Bianchi X-15, which I used way back with P95 - but it will also happily take BHP too. I haven't tried SIG in it yet but suspect that would work too.
It is a front break and so draw is quite fluid - but two things irked me - one was top strap elastic over back of neck rides up too high sometimes and belt securing tab a bit irritating.
All that said - concealment is excellent. I will still use it now and again if required.
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August 5th, 2006 01:07 AM
I carry my 226 in a Galco Miami Classic horizontal rig.
I'm a big guy, 6'4" & 250 lbs, and it seems to work fine for me. At least nobody's said anything.
Shot at a local shop's range the other day. Shop doesn't require LE or CCW to clear before entering shop or range. Owner escorted me into range with my little range bag, I started laying out spare mags and ammo. He asked me what I was going to shoot, so I unbuttoned my shirt a bit and pulled out the 226. Freaked him out a bit, I think.
I always wear button up shirts. I like the "neat" appearance of a buttoned up tucked in shirt. Carrying in the shoulder rig under the shirt is a bit slow on the draw, but it allows me to carry a full size pistol anywhere, any time, any weather... and I've practiced tearing open the buttons on a few old shirts just to make sure I could. I've sat in classes with fellow students staring at my back for 3+ hours (CCW on campus is legal here in CO) and nobody's even said a thing or acted freaked out.
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August 5th, 2006 06:39 AM
Thanks Tank im 6'0 and a little more rounder than you at 294 maybe its just the newness of that style of carry i was worried about of the holster rig i was using
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