"Is that a Pringles can in your pants, or are you just... happy to see me?"
This is a discussion on I feel like I have a pringles Can down my pants at 4 o'clock within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; "Is that a Pringles can in your pants, or are you just... happy to see me?"...
"Is that a Pringles can in your pants, or are you just... happy to see me?"
I probably can't add much to what everyone else said except to add my two pennies worth. When I first started carrying I was so excited about a good IWB holster. I purchased a Galco Summer Comfort, wore it a few times and decided the IWB just wasn't for me. Just never could get it situated correctly. Now I carry a S&W 438 in either a pocket holster or an OWB. I do on occasion use Concealment Tee's and they work fine, except they are deep concealment. I also use a Kangaroo Air Marshal model and it works fine as well.
Holsters, sadly, are a trial and error arrangement, and like most of us, your kids are going to inherit a draw full of LNIB holsters!
The belt makes sense..maybe look for another belt. I just so happen to have the JP PENNY reversible belt LOL......but I can see how a STIFF belt will be able to keep your nickers up AND still have a more round shape. This dress belt is curves around the gun and follows it contour almost..but I too will have to see whats out there cuz like operator j I need a nice DRESS belt ( BLACK) and dont want to spend more that 50...I know you get what you pay for but I have to keep it reasonable for me....although I know you cant put a tag on the protection of ones self.
I have lots of nosey bodies here at work and boy the notice any change...I they noticed when I got my new dress belt! i guess Im not keeping the girls busy enough here...or they like to look at my BELT REGION...one or the other...ahahahaha
thanks guys for the belt suggestions..will look as I love TSC......
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Glock 19 Gen 3 in a Brommeland Max Con V
Glock 26 Gen 4 in a Brommeland Max Con V
Karh PM9 in a Isotope 7 (made by Gary Brommeland)
Mossberg 500 and Kimber Custom II 1911.
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A good belt is the key. Almost 100% of the time someone tells me they are having trouble concealing a handgun they are doing so with a cheap pants belt rather than a gun belt. A so-so holster will conceal like a champ on a reinforced belt whereas a top shelf custom holster won't with a department store pants belt. My favorite gun belt I own currently is by High Noon it's two pieces of thick leather with a polymer reinforcement in-between; very stiff and supportive of my heavier full sized CCP's. For value it's hard to beat a Wilderness Instructor's or Frequent Flyer five stitch with polymer insert.
I like the gun belts that punch 7 holes, every 3/4 of an inch, versus 5 holes an inch apart. Gives a little more flexibility. The Belt Man will do that for you.
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try a UBG canute / ubgholsters.com
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I carry an M&P9c in a DeSantis Cozy partner @ 7-8 o clock.
Was carrying it in a no brand leather single wide clip with ok results, but wanted something more secure.
Both are IWB; can tuck the shirt in with some/minimal sign if someone is REALLY looking.
Am not afraid to go out with it tucked as such.
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I use Kholsters, nothing wrong with the others. Hybrid IWB's are the way to go. It takes a while to believe that people can't see what you feel. Also SmartCarry is also very good. I use one when at work (Service Technician) so I'm always bending, twisting etc. Then IWB the rest of the time. A gun belt makes a HUGE difference.
It's nice to know I have company in the holster junkie club. First of all, I can mostly wear straight bottom, untucked shirts on the job and leisure. Rarely have to tuck. I wear a black wifebeater undershirt so the black gun blends, just in case my shirt is not opaque enough. Holsters I've tried--all IWB:
Comp-tac Infidel (for 1911). Kydex. Tuckable, great big belt clip, but the holster is too open at the bottom and about 2 inches protrude, so it can snag my shirt on the front sight when drawing the gun, and has done so a few times--a potentially deadly flaw IMO.
Blade Tech Ultimate Concealment Holster (for SA XDM-45). Kydex. Holds the gun securely--the gun "snaps" into place, and quickly comes out. It is tuckable. Initially I found it rode too high and not the right cant. Its large area of plastic and "bolt on" belt clip allowed me to easily drill new holes to fix the height/cant problem. The clip is an S(?) clip, so you have to thread your belt through it, and it is at the back of the holster, so with the gun a 4 oclock, the clip is all the way around the back, somewhat inconvenient. Also the portion of the clip that goes over the pants is a very thin space. Sometimes a problem.
Crossbreed Supertuck. Leather/Kydex. For a Glock 19. This was a couple years ago, when CB had their "t" logo actually cut out of the clip metal, creating a weak place that tended to deform. I contacted CB and they sent me new clips--of the same design--while claiming that no one ever had the problem before. The new clips have also bent somewhat, but I was extra careful after the first set was damaged. I notice that the current CB holsters have the logo embossed in the metal clip rather than cut out, so someone else must have noticed the problem.
Don Hume 715. Had this for a SA XD9 Subcompact and another for the Glock 19. Inexpensive leather holster with a single belt clip. Not tuckable. This one is quick and easy to put on or take off, and I like that about it. For a quick draw, however, sometimes the holster comes off the belt before the gun comes out. A big thick belt helps.
And finally, I hesitated to consider this because of the name: Belly band. These are big wide (4 or 5 inches) elastic bands with sewn in slots for a gun and magazine. I really only tried this initially after reading a rave review on another forum, and because they are so cheap. Available, I'm told, for as little as $15. Mine was $25 from amazon.com. What a surprise. You wear this inside your pants, with the beltline as high or low as is comfortable and giving the right position for the gun (mine is usually with the beltline about halfway up the BB.) It is a one size fits all, but I've found it works fine with both the XDM-45 (a double stack 13-rd .45) and the Colt XSE (a 5" 1911). Less convenient to put on than the Don Hume or Comp-tac, but really easy for tuck vs not tuck. Drawing from the BB is no less difficult than from other IWB holsters I've used. No clips, so there is nothing on the outside. The BB is entirely nylon elastic, so it doesn't wear on the gun finish--at least not so far. Only drawback I have seen so far is that holstering/re-holstering a gun is a two-hand operation.
I recommend trying a BB if you have never done so. I mostly use it for the Colt now. When making a quick trip to the store, I'll usually grab the Don Hume, as it is quick to put on. My old Don Hume 715, even though made for the SA XD9-SC, actually holds the XDM-45 nicely (a little tight) and even holds the Colt 1911 OK. When I recently tried to order a DH 715 for the Colt, I was told there was a three to four month wait for the 1911 version. So I bought the Comp-tac.
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Galco makes a nice looking belt that could pass as a dress belt. Not too expensive and they ship quick.
When I first got into shooting a friend told me I would have a drawer full of holsters. He was right. Several CrossBreeds and assorted other holsters. I find that I rather dislike IWB carry because I am a skinny guy (5'9", 150 poiunds) and the things are uncomfrotable, push my belt so far out that it causes my pants to slide down over my hips, hard to draw from, difficult to reholster without 'muzzling' your self and way to obvious except for my BG380 which is a very tiny gun. I did find that I could tolerate a REMORA IWB and if IWB is required, I use that.
Go with a OWB and a change of clothing. As a general rule, you will probably find that kydex holsters are faster and noisier; leather is slower and more comfortable, hybird leather/kydex might work for you. And, wonder of wonders, the plastic Glock Sport Combat Holster gets really good marks. LOTS of people really like it and it is VERY inexpensive. - but you have to be sure to get the right size/model for your gun.
Lots of people wouldn't mind the Pringle sized thing in their pants though I admit 4 o'clock is not the preferred [position....
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