Long time 45 acp carrier.
This is a discussion on Long time 45 acp carrier. within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; if the velocity is the same--a 180 graine 40 or a 180 gr 45, than the energy is the same
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March 29th, 2012 12:45 AM
if the velocity is the same--a 180 graine 40 or a 180 gr 45, than the energy is the same
what is different and can be discussed is, the diameter of the 40--being smaller it may not tick the vein that the wider
45 cal does. but the 40 goes deeper and may do damage the 45 can't reach.
same as arguements 9 vs 45 have raged for over a hundred years...
and it not for lack of bodies to examine that the discussion continues.
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March 29th, 2012 12:52 AM
I sold the only .40 cal I owned (Glock 23). Not because I didn't like it, trust it, or felt under-gunned. I actually liked it quite well but it was the only gun I had in .40 cal.
I have multiple 9mm's, multiple .45's, multiple .357's, multiple .38's. Currently I'm carrying 9mm's for defense since the ammo is cheaper and I'm shooting them a heck of a lot more. If ammo prices ever come down, I may go back to carrying my .45's. But for now, economics at least partially dictates what I'm carrying and shooting these days.
I just didn't see the need to hang on to it, or buy more .40's since I was no longer required to carry a .40 cal Glock anymore.
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March 29th, 2012 08:47 AM
I carry .40 in the winter (M&P). and 9mm in the warmer months (G26, PF9). As it's been said you not under gunned with a 9mm. People think this all the time, but the ballistics speak for themselves. 20 yrs ago, maybe. But SD ammo has come a LONG way! With a full size gun .45 is a little nicer to shoot because .40 is a little snappier but not by much. and 9mm.......is 9mm.
March 29th, 2012 09:43 AM
I have 3 .40s in my arsenal and I have no problems with carrying them. However, my normal carry is an officer size Sig 1911.
March 29th, 2012 10:43 AM
No problem at all...I rotate my carry options between 9mm, .40 & .45.
March 29th, 2012 01:29 PM
March 29th, 2012 04:52 PM
There's nothing wrong with the .40 S&W power-wise, but I prefer .45 ACP or 9mm. .45 ACP if I want a bigger bullet, 9mm if I want higher capacity. I find both more controllable than the .40 S&W.
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March 29th, 2012 05:00 PM
March 29th, 2012 05:19 PM
Regarding the being able to tell what caliber by the gun shot - no it is not a science, and I couldn't do it myself without his pointing it out. This doctor has done many "bullet retrievals" for forensics and would always try to place bets with those of us who enjoyed the sport as to what caliber it was. NEVER bet against him, If he tried to bet you, it was because he had a gut feeling. (This was the day's before .40's were common on the street).
Originally Posted by azchevy
Is their a scientific way to tell which it was, (9mm versus .45) not that I am aware, but an experienced person with a good eye, can develop the skills, senses to make good educated and mostly accurate guesses. Can I do it, NO, but I witnessed him do it several times.
But, agree, no arguing, just saying this guy was GOOD at it, and if he tried to bet you, there was 90% chance you would loose. (I lost more than one can of soda to him!)
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March 29th, 2012 05:23 PM
I wonder if there are any graphics or images that show what happens to bullet expansion when it hits a solid object such as bone. These images are great to demonstrate design, and effectiveness of expansion, and ballistic gels are great for demonstrating the bullet response to soft tissue.
Has anyone seen anything like that?
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March 29th, 2012 05:30 PM
Do not like the snap of the 40 10 mm or 45 (I hunt with a 50 pistol so it is not the recoil)
Better 12 judging than 6 carrying
March 29th, 2012 05:38 PM
I would rather take the docs who get paid to research these things opinion over any others....
Originally Posted by DMan
Basic Wound Ballistic Terminal Performance Facts - M4Carbine.net Forums
Total wound channel comparisons - M4Carbine.net Forums
To sum it up, you cannot determine caliber simply by wound cavity as you claim, and shot placement is much more important than caliber....
March 29th, 2012 06:44 PM
I would not want to get hit with either round, 45 or 40.
I'd rather be lucky than good any day
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April 23rd, 2012 10:05 PM
As someone that is researching guns and calibers for my next CCW, my question is kind of the opposite of the OP. Do any of the people carrying a 45 feel under gunned with only 10 rounds(estimation) compared to say a 9mm that has 17? I have seen many posts about carrying bugs and extra clips, so I would think many people would count the lack of bullet capacity for many 45's a big disadvantage?
April 23rd, 2012 10:48 PM
Originally Posted by TxRhino
I carry a .45acp here in California. We are limited to 10 round mags, so I say anything less then a .45acp is pointless if it comes down to round count. My 0.02
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