Snap on pancake
This is a discussion on Snap on pancake within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Finally managed to finish a personal holster. I had made another snap on rig earlier and had this grand notion of making it capable of ...
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July 11th, 2012 02:24 AM
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July 11th, 2012 02:24 AM
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July 11th, 2012 03:57 AM
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This is a "snap-on pancake"; you've created something else:
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You'll get a result you like better if you do two things: switch from closed muzzle to open muzzle, and bang your pistol mould into the holster at the back of the slide, not on the muzzle of the holster (i.e., upside down).
Closed muzzle made sense when everyone carried revolvers, with their slim tapered barrels. But the advent of bulky designs like the Glock made nonsense of that, so open muzzle (even a slit in the leather) will give you a better result. Leaving 3/8" or so beyond the muzzle will prevent powder residue or sight black from dirtying clothing.
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July 11th, 2012 08:40 AM
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Somebody say someting about "Pancakes?"
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July 11th, 2012 08:47 AM
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July 11th, 2012 09:30 AM
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Hey, make me one of those for a G23 and I'll pick it up later this month when I pass through Hickory!
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July 11th, 2012 09:34 AM
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July 11th, 2012 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by
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This is a "snap-on pancake"; you've created something else:
You'll get a result you like better if you do two things: switch from closed muzzle to open muzzle, and bang your pistol mould into the holster at the back of the slide, not on the muzzle of the holster (i.e., upside down).
Closed muzzle made sense when everyone carried revolvers, with their slim tapered barrels. But the advent of bulky designs like the Glock made nonsense of that, so open muzzle (even a slit in the leather) will give you a better result. Leaving 3/8" or so beyond the muzzle will prevent powder residue or sight black from dirtying clothing.
Red, I've not seen any consensus on a name for this type of holster, but snap on pancake made the most sense. I can certainly see the difference in the two and had considered making one similar to your pic.
Also, the muzzle end is open. Although not a lot. It's a fully lined holster, so the stitch line is on every edge. I sewed the muzzle, sweat guard, and mouth first, then glued the front and back together, and finished sewing where all 4 pieces of leather came together. I think a couple of things are happening. My stitch line may be a touch too close, especially around the front sight area. Although I used 1/2" extra space all the way around the pistol. I could have probably made that side less steep and added a bit more leather there too. The bind seems to be where the stitch from the sight channel meets the bottom stitch. I can't tell if that is keeping the trigger guard a bit higher or if the width of the trigger guard is doing it.
As for inserting the pistol. Are you suggesting putting the back of the slide on the board and pounding the holster down over it? I guess I never thought of doing that because of the sweat guard. But I can see where it could be helpful. Maybe I could have gotten it a bit deeper doing it upside down like you suggest.
Thanks for the responses everybody.
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July 11th, 2012 02:12 PM
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July 11th, 2012 02:16 PM
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July 11th, 2012 02:39 PM
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Looks very good. I have a similar one made by Safariland for my Gov Model Colt. I like it very much.
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July 11th, 2012 02:45 PM
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Looks great, nice work.
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July 11th, 2012 03:15 PM
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I don't mind the closed muzzle. You got to build just what you want. Looks like a high quality job. thank you for sharing your work and ideas!
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