just got my new holsters from *Multi Holsters ~ Quality Custom KYDEX Gun Holsters for Inside, Outside, Multi 2-in-1 Inside/Outside Waistband, Pocket & Mag Holders it only took about 8 weeks to come in so im happy with that. i was not going to wait 18 weeks to get a raven holster.i am very happy with them i did a over the one phone order. it was just easier at the time to do it like that. i got 3 holsters from them each one i love now. a basic IWB, hybrid and a multi. the multi is both owb and iwb. now i just have to figure out what one i like more now.