This is a discussion on 1:30, no, 3:00... wait, 4:30... try 1:30 again... ARGH!! within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by lchamp 3:30 or 4 works for me...maybe 3:45... So far, I think I've found that 3:38 is just about perfect. LOL Don't ...
Don't misunderstand my post, I wasn't griping, just a half humorous topic I thought many could relate to. Yes, new item against your body will feel unusual and uncomfortable at first and yes, everybody is different, so there's no one right answer.
Seriously though, 3:30ish did feel the best as the day went on and I'll tweak as needed.
Keep the personal experiences and preferences coming.
Here at the rock, we have just 3 simple rules...
Glock 27 for every day carry (LCP for deep conceal when necessary)... Glock 23 for the home.
Call me Iggy. Only my mother calls me by my full given name.
I typically carry between 330-5. It varies depending on what I'm doing, and what I'm wearing.
My .357 is typically a 730-8. (I'm naturally a lefty, but my 1911 works better right- even with ambi-safeties).
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Never tried it, myself, but don't forget palm-out style: holster is for your off-hand, but you draw with your strong hand from your favorite 3:30 position. You draw and holster with your fingers between the butt of the gun and the top of your right butt cheek - palm-out - instead of with the thumb between the gun and your body.
I prefer the 1:00 AIWB (scroll up for the pics). By using only one snapped belt loop, I have the option in a low car seat to let the holster and gun sit in my lap. I agree with the poster who said that over a few days, the discomfort lessens considerably.
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when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
I carry AIWB about 1:30, and have did it many times with bigger Glocks than the 27. I have also driven many miles with the gun in this position.
Two tricks: The holster needs to lay in the fold created between the leg and torso; and it works best with a holster purposely designed for AIWB carry. The Dale Fricke Archangel and Ehud have worked best for me.
When I was younger and thinner I could carry any where it seemed. Now I have love handles but most of my extra weight is out front. This is making IWB very uncomfortable. And apendex carry nearly impossible. Lucky thing is I nearly always wear a T shirt with a cover shirt. So pocket carry or OWB is easy. You will find what fits, just keep at it. DR
Yep. Everyone starts with an IWB (especially with larger Pistols) at the 3 or 3:30. You'll eventually (based on your gut size layout) figure out that 4:00 or later is more comfortable. Also depends on the holster and the degree of cant of the weapon.
I started out at about 4:30, but then as I lost weight, 4:30 didn't seem right to me. I'm not sure why but my G19 all of a sudden seemed like it was sticking out a mile from my waist. Now it seems 3:00-3:30 is perfect. Right on my side, under my arm.
I heard that the 4oclock position is the most popular.
Gone to AIWB almost exclusively, favorite rig is an Archangel by Dale Fricke for my G23 mounted on a Frequent Flyer 5 Stitch re-enforced by Wilderness. I also run a spare horizontal mag carrier by Mr. Fricke with a G22mag with + 2 adapter.
Pics would've been nice
I'm surprised to see at least one comment that it's the pistol choice more than the holster. I'd have rather thought it was the opposite, assuming you have access to well designed holsters and know the difference (how to choose one). A holster's main function is to provide for the portability of a handgun; but it comes up short if it's also not ergonomic (ergonomics being the science of the interface between man and his creations).
Holsters can be built to carry too high or too low vs. the body, at a basic angle that puts the grip in the wrong or right spot vs. the ribcage (in the case of a belt holster), at a twist angle that pushes the gun butt in too far or not far enough, of a style or of materials that don't cushion the pistol against the body; etc. There's a lot going on around the human pelvis including the pelvic bone, the hip bone, the muscles, even the nerves --do you know there's even a term for the injury that holsters can cause from pressing near the iliac crest of the pelvis: "policeman's hip" aka meralgia parasthetica. This is all old, well-known (?) science.
So how about some pics of what you're carrying, and where you're carrying it?
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2:30 to 3:30 can drive car, sit, walk hides well depends on gun try changing the cant
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