Lack of shameless self-promotion?
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Hume? , trigger area issue?
What's wrong--- made from spray painted duct tape?
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the point of this thread, but to me, it seems to be in poor taste. I take it you make holsters, and feel you're are superior, so you're making a game out of pointing out the flaws in the competition. If that's all correct, I personally feel this thread is very immature.
Holsters get better with good critiques. Mine have. And customers get better holsters when the know what to look for.
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Ya, the 2nd revolver one is way off in terms of cylinder to barrel alignment.
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Ok, fair comments all, but to quote Sheldon Cooper, "What's life without whimsy?"
For me, the difference between the "right" and the "wrong" is as obvious as comparing, say, Roseanne Barr with Kaley Cuoco; and I assumed the differences between the two holsters would be equally obvious to forum members:
Pic number one. This one is taken from John's "Bianchi International" 1986 catalogue; in fact it's the cover shot. As the person responsible for selecting the products for catalogue shoots, I can say that by 1986 I was able to pick samples from the bins WITHOUT LOOKING because quality control standards at the company were extremely high; i.e., the products were not made for the shoot:
The circle marked B: as clear and detailed boning as is possible with a lined holster, around the cylinder. The flute down the centre of the cylinder is straight and distinct, as are the two flutes on either side. The circle marked A: that's what's called a "saddlemaker's tacking stitch" -- over one, return in parallel until the stitch blends back into the main stitchline. Strong and handsome. The line marked C: straight, deep, clean line along the barrel and the underlug. The line marked D: another clear, deep, straight line along the underlug, and along the forward part of the frame. Is it obvious what revolver it was moulded around? It sure is.
Now fast forward a quarter century, and here's one from John's own "Frontier Gunleather" 2013 catalogue:
The circle marked B: a lick and a promise around the cylinder; the flute boning is wobbly. The circle marked A: no saddlemaker's tacking stitch; instead a stitch or two made by throwing a Bull machine in reverse. Weak, and lacks style. The line marked C: isn't one. The line marked D: isn't one. What revolver was it boned around? A Rossi?
So the question is, if John "the man" knew how holsters should be made (I haven't tackled the design yet) in 1986, but doesn't in 2013, what happened? Gosh, the catalogue even has a picture of him making the holsters personally
Last edited by rednichols; February 5th, 2013 at 08:17 PM.
can i still win one of your holsters :) for a glock 26
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I appreciate the breakdown of flaws within these holster designs. I can also appreciate the craftsmanship of a holster, and it's function, I could not begin to imagine the detail, manufacturing process, and design methodology that goes into it. It, simply, is not my profession....I am a consumer. I have no idea what "boning" or a "saddlemaker's tacking stitch" is and could not tell you if they were done incorrectly. However, your explanation was a good read and it's interesting to know how one designer views another's work. But, as a consumer, my only critique of much merit, would have been: "They are ugly and don't look like they would work very well. I wouldn't spend my money on them". Thanks for the insight though...it does give me some points to consider the next time I'm in the market.
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My guess would be that since John Bianchi is no longer there, holster/gun people no longer make the decisions; accountants (aka "bean counters") do.
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And he didn't "retire"; he was fired by the company's owners shortly after they acquired his company.
Because no one was able to distinguish between Bianchi the man and Bianchi the company(s) (1963 Protector Brand, 1964 Safari Ltd., 1966 Bianchi Holsters, 1971 Bianchi Leather Products, 1985 Bianchi International) I've awarded a free holster EACH to TWO who responded with enthusiasm, if not accuracy : RubenZ and 0331 (PMs sent).
Last edited by rednichols; February 5th, 2013 at 08:28 PM.
Red, it's always educational hearing about design and execution details from you. I enjoy learning as I'm new to the holster appreciation scene.
Now, about your new designs......
I have a 5" railed 1911 by Dave Lauck that I would love to carry comfortably. And a New Glock 33 I'm trying to work into my carry rotation. I would be proud to wear something from your new line.