Upside Down Holster

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    So I was surfing fleabay the last few days looking for new holsters on the cheap. I came across an upside down shoulder holster that fit a snub nose revolver. After thinking on it for a while I decided I needed it. To make a long story short I was out bid, but it got me to thinking that it would be a handy carry style.

    I often wear a hooded sweatshirt or some other cover garment like that and I also spend a fair amount of time on the road. I know, I know a crossdraw or IWB holster would work but I have a hard time finding shirts that are long enough for my torso. Which leads me to think a holster like this would keep it away from my belt line where I tend to show off my gun.

    My question is two part, first off do you have a downward draw with this type of holster where I can reach up my shirt and draw (manly flashbang style), part 2 who still makes these types of holsters that are under $100?

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    Those holsters were made back in the 1980s and to me the best shoulder holster made. I carried a S&W Model 10/15 in one and when doing my pre-flight on C-5s I never had the gun come loose. As far as I know no one still makes them but I have found a couple on ebay at reasonable prices. I have one that fits a Colt Detective Special I use for a road trip set up. By the way that is the same holster Steve McQueen used in “Bullit”.

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    msgt/ret is right. They are the best shoulder holster. I have a couple of them. Most were made by Bianchi as the model 9R, but I believe Safariland also made a version. Ken Null (see holster makers list) also makes an upside down shoulder holster, but his works differently. The Safariland ( I think) used elastic to hold the gun in place; Bianchi used a steel spring and Ken Null uses plastic that hooks the trigger guard. They are very easy to draw from, but difficult to re-holster. Just keep watching Ebay; that's where I found mine.

    By the way, some of the Bianchi's have a belt slot so you can take them off the harness and use as a belt holster.
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    Nevada Gun Leather still makes one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
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    That is a pretty sweet holster but a little above my price range. I suppose I had better keep watching ebay. I have one other quick question, do you all think a horizontal shoulder holster would be easy to draw from wearing a pullover shirt? I know the upside down one would be perfect but if I came across a good deal on a horizontal one I could jump on it.

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    I got my S&W brand off of EBay for my 442. It works much better than a horizontal for pullover shirts.
    They are the most comfortable and easiest draw for the snub nose revolvers.
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    I made one for a Model 29 Smith and Wesson back in about 1977. Retention was an issue I finally overcame with a thumb snap. It worked, and concealed great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    I made one for a Model 29 Smith and Wesson back in about 1977. Retention was an issue I finally overcame with a thumb snap. It worked, and concealed great.
    Right on the money, Mike (56? You're still a bub). Retention was an issue with the upside-down holsters, beginning with the original Berns-Martin:

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    It's not entirely clear when this holster came on the scene, because the mag articles I've seen from the 30s speak only of the famous Speed holster; and it is in reality a conversion of the common shoulder holsters of the era, into a belt holster. My original catalogue is from 1966. These use a spring that retains above the cylinder. That three-stitch plug is there near the muzzle for a reason; and its omission is why the elastics don't retain. But the spring is not very strong.

    The Bianchi 9 originated in the 60s, the oldest record I've seen being from 1963/4 when Perkins and Bianchi were a team; when Perkins split off, he made his own version as in MSGT's post. The Bianchi was copied heaps.

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    The Bianchi 9R, one of my first assignments as a youngster at Bianchi, was originated because the elastics don't retain under certain circumstances; which I will explain in a moment. Turns out it didn't truly solve the retention problem -- until we added a rubber grommet and screw assembly that emulated the leather bit in the Berns-Martin mentioned above. Notice that in this pic there is no screw assembly to act as a pivot, and the revolver has arced its way loose from all retention.

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    The 9R2 was created to provide a hammer-spur guard, as in the Bucheimer "Marshall" belt holster; and make it a dual-side belt holster; and somehow we were back full circle to the Berns-Martin "Triple Draw"! Except retention, and durability, were excellent. Note the post and screw assembly near the muzzle.

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    All shoulder holsters need to pass the test we created as a tool to solve the retention problem in the 9 and early 9R: it's called the "snap test". It was created to simulate an officer who had jumped a fence and found himself without his revolver; when he landed the jump, the revolver came out.

    With your revolver in the holster (only leave it loaded if you want an a/d, your choice), grasp the harness at the centre of the shoulder strap, and "snap" hard. Hard. Many shoulder holsters will give up their revolver, so do it over your bed :) If the revolver stays in, then you have a good design in your hands. If the design is poor, you have a good revolver on the floor.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
    , which is why there were and are so many copies of the elastic version. The spring versions are beyond the hobby craftsman, though I made my first at home when I was 19; trying to copy the Hoyt ("I didn't try. I succeeded". Sheldon Cooper).

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    Everyones response is spot on, and they are great shoulder rigs. They were popular with detectives when I was a cop and the revolver still filled our holsters. If you carry a snub this is the rig to put your pet six-shooter in. Just goes to show not all of the best ideas are made of Kydex or invented after the year 2000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Those holsters were made back in the 1980s and to me the best shoulder holster made. I carried a S&W Model 10/15 in one and when doing my pre-flight on C-5s I never had the gun come loose. As far as I know no one still makes them but I have found a couple on ebay at reasonable prices. I have one that fits a Colt Detective Special I use for a road trip set up. By the way that is the same holster Steve McQueen used in “Bullit”.

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    By the way, the Msgt is right, they work great in vehicles......and McQueen in Bullit....CLASSIC!
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    Dang now I am going to have to have one. :) What would be a good price to spend on a used one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teach View Post
    Dang now I am going to have to have one. :) What would be a good price to spend on a used one?
    If I remember correctly, the cheapest I got one was $35.00, but being Ebay, it is unpredictable; just depends on how many bidders want it and how bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teach View Post
    Dang now I am going to have to have one. :) What would be a good price to spend on a used one?
    I think I paid about $35 for one and $41 for the other.
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    Am I the only one who has an issue with a holster that points the muzzle at my body parts? No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smolck View Post
    Am I the only one who has an issue with a holster that points the muzzle at my body parts? No thanks.
    Twelve years of carrying that way and still do on occasion never had a problem with it.
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