This may sound ignorant...

This may sound ignorant...

This is a discussion on This may sound ignorant... within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; So I have been looking at new holsters....again...everyone knows how that is. Anyway I have been specifically looking at Raven Concealment phantom with light compatibility. ...

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    This may sound ignorant...

    So I have been looking at new holsters....again...everyone knows how that is. Anyway I have been specifically looking at Raven Concealment phantom with light compatibility. I was just wondering if I were to buy one of those for my Glock 22 with a TLR-1 if I could also use it with my Glock 23 with or without the light....Any input would be appreciated guys. I would assume I could I just want to make sure before I drop that kind of money on it.


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    I don't know how the retention on those work. It would sound like the slide would have much wiggle room if it was modeled for a light and you holstered it without one. Not exactly safe...

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    Those were my thoughts, which is why I wanted to double check and make sure.

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    Most holsters fitted with a light attached are made to be used with only the lit attached. Contacting Raven would be the best way to be certain though.
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    The only ignorant question is the one that is not asked. Good question you posted.

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    Light bearing holsters get their retention from the holster's contact with the light. So, you can not safely use that holster without the light. That said, depending on the holster, you may be able to use the shorter G23 in the same holster so long as you also use the same light. I would try it with a safe weapon for sure before I even thought about carrying that way, but if you think about it the only thing that would change is the length of the slide. The Light should be in the same location, so there is no reason I can think of why it couldn't work.

    Raven Concealment will, rightly, tell you not to do this.

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    I guess I am a cheapskate. When I was working, after trying lots of holsters, I ultimately bought Safariland suede inside the pants holster and matching magazine carrier for my off duty pistol. If I was carrying a revolver, same holster. They were extremely comfortable, easy on the gun, and best of all cheap! Now that I am retired, I had FIST custom make a kydex holster and magazine holder, cost $90. Good in winter, but not in summer. Then I found the Bianchi fanny pack. I now carry all of my gear in a Bianchi nylon fanny pack, with secret holster. It has a place for my Chief Special .45 in the secret holster. It has two large zipper compartments in which I carry a flashlight, cuffs, loaded magazines, badge, and assorted other gear. I have everything with me wherever I go. Only other officers know what it really is, to everyone else it is a plain fanny pack. I hope it lasts a long, long time as Bianchi stopped making them, they cited low sales which is beyond my comprehension. The thing is great. Maybe another company will start making them in the quality of the Bianchi one.
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    most light specific holsters rely on the light for retention and the correct position of the pistol in the holster, I'm not sure about the glocks being the same size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrjunkie View Post
    So I have been looking at new holsters....again...everyone knows how that is. Anyway I have been specifically looking at Raven Concealment phantom with light compatibility. I was just wondering if I were to buy one of those for my Glock 22 with a TLR-1 if I could also use it with my Glock 23 with or without the light....Any input would be appreciated guys. I would assume I could I just want to make sure before I drop that kind of money on it.
    I have a Raven Concealment Phantom for a G17 w/light, my G19 works perfectly in it with the light attached, slightly lose without it.
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