Akers Nichols Avenger?

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    Akers Nichols Avenger?

    Looks like a nice way to carry a railed 5 inch 1911. But, some other brands seem mostly similar. What does the cutout do where the sight channel is on some?
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    I think it's called a speed cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrike6 View Post
    Looks like a nice way to carry a railed 5 inch 1911. But, some other brands seem mostly similar. What does the cutout do where the sight channel is on some?
    Red? I think it's called a speed cut.
    Here's a pic, point out the area you're speaking of :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rednichols View Post
    Here's a pic, point out the area you're speaking of :)

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    OP, I'm still puzzled. In this case a pic apparently is NOT worth a thousand words, so maybe a more detailed description would help me :) . Or arrows on the pic.

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    Geebus, i really suck at this...
    Like this, kinda
    It's cut to clear the ejection port...
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    Allows the muzzle to 'clear leather' a little sooner, and allows one to 'rock' the muzzle forward sooner.

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    Is it really a faster draw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrike6 View Post
    It's cut to clear the ejection port...
    Ah, you mean why are some cut LOWER than my Nichols Avenger. Yup, less leather to clear before bringing the muzzle to the target. I tend to go only as low as the top of the ejection port, because on men a grip-forward carry and an "fbi draw" action naturally negates anything lower than that. But a well-designed holster can retain your pistol even when cut low, as I did with the FBI holster that was slated for adoption in the 90s when the 10mm lite program was active. I recall that their specification called for the low cut, because the holster was designed to have adjustable angle (so a vertical carry and even muzzle forward carry were possible) and for carry by women (so the drop was also adjustable) who have shorter torsos and boobs to clear with their elbow (God bless 'em).

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    Any pics?
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    Like this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrike6 View Post
    Like this one?
    Yup, well searched :) I actually have one in my collection, but with the patented paddle (not the commonly copied one; another) that has one version for men, another for women; rather than the slotted plate in your pic. With the plate, rotating it 180 degrees raised or lowered the ride, then locked into place in a calculated range of carry angles.

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    Your knowledge of biomechanics is amazing.
    Now when are you going to make me one (in black with red 'roo lining)? :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrike6 View Post
    Now when are you going to make me one (in black with red 'roo lining)? :)
    My railed 1911 hasn't arrived yet :)

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    I'd send you mine, but, you know, OZ rules. :)
    Does the rail pose any particular difficulties during the draw?
    What kind of leather do you like for the body of the holster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrike6 View Post
    I'd send you mine, but, you know, OZ rules. :)
    Does the rail pose any particular difficulties during the draw?
    What kind of leather do you like for the body of the holster?
    The holster won't leave the shop if it does (cause drawing problems). Cowhide is used for 99.9% of all holsters; the other being shell butt cordovan (horsehide) which comes from just one tannery worldwide, Horween. Haven't yet (50+ years) had a reason to work with cordovan. Have been using full-grain kangaroo as a lining because it's thin and strong but expensive, and, well, I live in Australia with a major kanga tanner nearby!

    Lately I've been having a play with shagreen leather (stingray), as an outer leather. So far I've been able to do an end-run around shagreen's most infamous difficulties, and if I get ALL of them under control I will post up a pic. A very showy leather because it is covered with tiny beads of bone under the surface, and sparkles. And that is what makes working with it a challenge. Fun :)

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