August 6th, 2013 08:09 PM
I need advice on alternative to carry in Chicago
I am traveling to Chicago this month and sadly I have to leave my EDC at home. Does anyone have any suggestions on a good pepper spray. I have not done any research on pepper sprays and would love some suggestions.
August 6th, 2013 08:29 PM
Fox Labs, or Sabre should do you well.
From Handgunlaw.us, for Illinois:
- Chemical/Electric Weapons Laws: 720 ILCS 5/24-1
- State Knife Laws: 720 ILCS 5/24-1 & 720 ILCS 5/33A-1
- Chicago city ordinances: Title 8, 8-24-045 Firearms and Other Weapons / Noxious Gas or Liquids
Chicago's Title 8, 8-24-045 limits on "sprays":
8-24-045 Noxious gas or liquid.
(a) No person shall use any device to discharge a noxious gas or liquid in an enclosed room in any Class C-1 or Class C-2 Assembly Unit, as defined in Chapter 13-56 of this Code, or in an enclosed room in any restaurant, bar or tavern that is a Class F Assembly Unit as defined in that chapter, if more than 20 persons are present in that room, unless the person is a peace officer, as defined in Section 8-20-010 of this Code, engaged in law enforcement activity. As used in this section, “noxious gas or liquid” means mace, pepper spray or any other substance that is intended or designed to cause irritation to the eyes, nose or mouth, or to cause nausea.
(b) Any person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor that is punishable by a fine $500.00, or 30 days imprisonment, or both, for each offense.
(Added Coun. J. 4-9-03, p. 106979, § 1; Amend Coun. J. 11-8-12, p. 38872, § 159)
^ Note above that, if you aren't a cop but find yourself in a SD situation in a room with more than 20 people, you might well be charged with harming everyone under this ordinance. Chicago "laws" can be wonderful, that way. Cops get a bye, but not citizens in SD legitimate situations.
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August 6th, 2013 08:51 PM
If you try to protect yourself in Chicago you will be prosecuted. YMMV
August 6th, 2013 09:04 PM
I live in Chicago suburbs and it really can get windy. To avoid getting back-spray in your own face pick a unit that shoots a liquid spray rather than a fine aerosol. I think Kimber makes one that mimics the trigger of a very small pocket pistol.
Be aware that you can not use pepper spray in a bar or restaurant of public meeting room.
Know where you are going and ask locals if the neighborhood is safe. Chicago changes from very safe to not so safe by crossing from one side of the street to another or going into another 'neighborhood'.
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August 6th, 2013 09:06 PM
I can tell you from experience that Chicago is really strict with the use of such "non-lethal" gases or liquids. If you use pepper spray or similar in Chicago, there is a good chance you will be charged with a crime. Obviously, if the alternative is dying, it's worth the risk. jbum may or may not have been serious in the post above but the sentiment is very true; the Chicago machine takes a very dim view of citizens resisting.
August 6th, 2013 09:24 PM
Too bad you can't just avoid Chicago all together....
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August 6th, 2013 09:46 PM
Will you be staying downtown? If so the only thing you have to even remotely worry about is teen thug mobs. They usually prey on women and other teens. If you stay near the loop or Michigan avenue you should be fine.
August 6th, 2013 10:57 PM
As with any big city the criminal element can smell a tourist a mile away. Watch your credit cards, carry wallet in front pocket. Dont go out late by yourself. Stay at a hotel with their own garage use valets when possible. I grew up in Chicago Great City excellant resturants, museums are fantastic. The current establishment sucks an have created a climate of anti 2nd amendment.
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August 6th, 2013 11:07 PM
The Kimber Pepperblaster even has a laser-sight attachment. Which probably is a good idea.
Originally Posted by mlesage8
I'd suggest a VERY bright flashlight. Like 300 lumen or better. A blinded gunman is a much reduced threat, and even Chicago - as far as I know - doesn't prosecute people for carrying flashlights.
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August 7th, 2013 12:44 AM
May not be an option but the best advice I can give is to stay away from Chicago. You could not pay me enough to go there and my boss knows to not even ask. I will not travel to Chicago or anywhere else in the communist state of Illinois.
August 7th, 2013 01:50 AM
August 7th, 2013 02:09 AM
My son and his family live in IN, 60+ miles from Chicago. When we visit, I have refused to let my wife go to there for any reason...Chicago is off limits. My son already understands that...
I will not set foot in that state, and I'm willing to drive around it (I know, extra gas money.) so those corrupt politicians don't get $.01 of my $$.
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August 7th, 2013 02:36 AM
August 7th, 2013 03:41 AM
I'd have to say the best way to protect yourself . . . is a plane ticket out of Illinois. Not helpful, I know, but I'm being honest.
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August 7th, 2013 05:17 AM
I'm from Chicago and know the neighborhoods well. I'm staying in Elmhurst at a hotel. I normally transport my firearm in my vehicle but that's when I stay with friends. I will have to leave my EDC at home this trip,
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