The Dr. No film holster

The Dr. No film holster

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    The Dr. No film holster

    Who says holster makers don't have fun?!

    Searching for Bond info on the web, I discovered that, not only is there an awareness of the holster used in the first Bond film, 1962's Dr. No; there are copies available. But more significantly to me, is that the copies appear to be made from viewing stills of the film, instead of an understanding that the holster is simply a costume designer's 'redux' in fabric and suede of a shoulder holster commonly available 1950-1960: the Heiser H185.

    Pics for comparison; I've intentionally shrunk the size of my own pics to be roughly similar to the small sizes of the stills from the film that I had available.

    1962 dr no holster with 1960 heiser model 185 forebear (1).jpg1962 dr no holster with 1960 heiser model 185 forebear (2).jpg1962 dr no holster with 1960 heiser model 185 forebear (3).jpg1962 dr no holster with 1960 heiser model 185 forebear (4).jpg

    It looks to me, that the costumer used a readily-available revolver version of the Heiser, rather than locating a purpose-built auto version (which Heiser made then); perhaps in a longer barrel length than my 2" snubbie example. Use of a revolver version helps explain why the PPK doesn't fit "properly" in a modern context (the pistol can't be grasped properly; in fact, in the film Bond is seen picking the pistol out of the holster with fingertips).
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    To be a technical geek, Casino Royale was the first Bond movie.. but that one doesn't really count. hehe

    In the books, Bond actually wore a suade holster for his sidearm, so it wouldn't print under his suit/tuxedo. That was changed in the movie by the weapons master who advised on the films, due to the difficulty with drawing from suede.
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    Suede also wouldn't put holster wear on a barrel like gun leather...but I'm with the weapons master (how does one get to be a "weapons master", because that sounds like a good job!), drawing from a floppy holster would not be good.
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    There is a video special I saw on TV at some point about the making of Bond movies, and they had the guy interviewed who did the weapons prop work for the movies. He was a pretty amazing guy. Had an amazing amount of knowledge of firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post
    To be a technical geek, Casino Royale was the first Bond movie.. but that one doesn't really count. hehe

    In the books, Bond actually wore a suade holster for his sidearm, so it wouldn't print under his suit/tuxedo. That was changed in the movie by the weapons master who advised on the films, due to the difficulty with drawing from suede.
    Look again, the pocket of the Bond film holster IS suede. That change, and the reinterpretation of the body of the holster in blue fabric, is the contribution of the costume designer (of course, the prop master could have been involved, having supplied the leather original).
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    If I could work my .380 like James Bond I'd leave my .357s and .38s at home.

    Suede sucks! It retains moisture and is just a fluffy bunny representation for what a real holster should be - rough and tough on the inside and smooth and creamy on the outside.

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    If you recall, Bond also had to surrender his preferred firearm when he was issued the .380 PPK, too. That also required a change in holsters.
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    I always wondered about that shoulder rig. Looked pretty comfortable, but not really fit to the Walther. There was an original Beretta .25 Bond was supposed to have turned in.
    Ian Fleming also was supposed to have Bond carrying a .38 revolver, but that never took off.
    Red, I should have known you would know about that rig. Any virtues to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post
    If you recall, Bond also had to surrender his preferred firearm when he was issued the .380 PPK, too. That also required a change in holsters.
    He was issued the 7.65mm PPK.

    He later carried it in a Burns & Martin shoulder rig.
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    7.65, .32 ACP, 9mm Kurtz, all too small to hit " like a brick thrown through a plate glass window."
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    Indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrike6 View Post
    7.65, .32 ACP, 9mm Kurtz, all too small to hit " like a brick thrown through a plate glass window."
    But all very effective if you put it in their ear and empty the mag.

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    Well, I'll just stick to my .45 ACP until someone develops a thermonuclear handgun round....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wunderneun View Post
    He was issued the 7.65mm PPK.

    He later carried it in a Burns & Martin shoulder rig.
    In the book only, of course, as it's well-known that Berns-Martin shoulder holsters were only for revolvers:

    Berns-Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Of course, most of that entry is mine, including the references.
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