After a few months of using this Concealment model pancake OWB for the G17 I am very pleased with it. It carrys close and high to the body and makes the chore effortless. It hides and don,t dig at you and can be worn all day. The G17 only is about 32oz. loaded with 18 rds. and carrys very lite and hides very good for a near full size pistol. A sweater,hooded or unhooded sweatshirt or shirt out hides it and of course the jacket which can a hide a few easy. I lkie this rig and pistol combo for the times when you may need more firepower.