NOOB - Loops vs Clips IWB

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    NOOB - Loops vs Clips IWB

    Can anyone tell me the pro's and con's of each?
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    Clips easy on easy off

    Loops are easy but not as easy as a clip

    Cons of a clip for my taste they dont hold the holster as secure to you as a loop does

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    Clips? As in the cheap little spring steel thinghies? When I think of IWB I have exactly two choices:

    Loops that snap after "looping" over the belt from underneath or the "J HOOK" arrangement that slides as a plate attached to the holster and is designed to have the belt lie atop while the abbreviated "hook" is used to snag the bottom edge of the belt. IF the hook is designed for the appropriate width belt, the fit is perfect. To remove the holster, simply loosen the belt and nudge it upward so that it slides out of the "groove" created by the "J HOOK" and slide the holster up and out of the pants. Simple and far more efficient than any "clip."
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    Clips are convenient, and I’ve had several IWB holsters with clips over the years. I’ve also run defensive pistol shoots on a pretty regular basis since about 1997, and have seen several in use by others. Unfortunately, IWB holsters with clips tend to slip off the belt and get drawn with the gun on a pretty regular basis. I’ve seen a lot of shooters draw their guns and point them downrange only to realize their guns were still wearing their holsters and were inoperable until they stripped the holsters off.

    If you want something more secure than a clip, but more secure than a belt loop, look at the holsters from various manufacturers that use J-clips.
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    Exclamation Exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by Harold Green View Post
    Unfortunately, IWB holsters with clips tend to slip off the belt and get drawn with the gun on a pretty regular basis. Iíve seen a lot of shooters draw their guns and point them downrange only to realize their guns were still wearing their holsters and were inoperable until they stripped the holsters off.
    Exactly! How positively embarrassing. There is no faster way to identify yourself as both a noob and a total amateur (if you've been shooting awhile and have at least the technique). Holsters with clips also are made of cheap thin leather or cheap nylon. Folks usually get them as a cost saving measure, being unaware that if you're going to spend the $$$ to buy a quality gun you'd better spend the $$$ to purchase the support equipment, too. CCW is an entire system, not just the gun.
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    Not all clips are the same. That answer came to me while I was going through all my holsters & trying them out with their respective guns.

    The clips that say, Bianchi uses, comes off with a gun that's snug in the holster. I have holster with clips that have a wide metal hook that comes up in the opposite direction & hooks into the pants, under the belt. UGB holsters uses these. They're not going anywhere & personally, it's more secure for me than loops. There's no play.

    Loops look nice & even a cheap one will work, but a proper metal clip (As described), allows me to wear the clip onto my pants with a belt over it. Carry a light gun, like my PM9, in a tuckable holster (Like UBG holster's new one), & it disappears.
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    Um....NO! Ill disagree a tad here. Now, mind you not all spring clips are created equally...some arent even close. And I understand the bad ones ruin it for the good ones....But with that being said...

    I use the same clips that Nate uses..they are CDL springs and they took me years to find. They are tough as nails and I sell them in holsters to many holster snobs all over the world. Yes...Clips are convenient...but dont show that a noob just bought a holster.

    My personal holster is a DC Special....its just like my Com 3 with a spring clip on each side of the gun...and just for the record....They are anything but cheap and/or inexpensive.
    One way snaps for a holster are around 2.00$ for the whole setup...our cost. The clips cost that much each......

    Id love to see anyone get my holster off of my pants/belt without "unhooking" the spring clips....it aint gonna happen! Period. The holsters will not come out unless that is your intention.

    They do look more industrial than a real leather loop and some people just dont like the look of them....

    Thats a personal preference for those who are getting and using a holster....thats all.

    Those who wear spring clips on there holster are just as well versed as one who prefers loops. If the maker is using good spring clips and a well designed holster.....there is NO reason not to use them.

    The J hook design is more questionable to me than a good spring clip...the spring clip hooks over the belt...keeping the holster in positive placement and makes the belt take the weight of the rig/gun. J hooks are designed to put the weight of the holster on the pants with nothing assisting it...the belt doesnt even come into the equation. To top it off, if the pants cant take the weight of the holster, the hook can be way below the belt and does no good at all. See my point?

    A good hook or clip should be directly attached to the belt and the belt should take the weight of the whole setup for security and stability....J hooks just dont do that.



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    The clip on my highnoon Mr. Softy is like a tiger biting into my belt..you could pull all day on it and it is going nowhere...the bottom of it also is curved to catch the belt...it takes two hands to get it off, one to pry the clip away and the other to pull out the holster....it would almost be more conveinent to thread my belt through loops...

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    A one way snap and loop set up works great and the snaps are hard to fasten the first several times that you use them. Even though you feel and hear the snap click it can come loose until the snap gets settled in good. Then it's on and off very easy. As far as clips go, make sure it's one that has a lip that protrudes and catches under your belt. Take a look at this holster from Eric. I guarantee that you want pull the holster off the belt. As a matter of fact you have to push up on the belt to disengage the lip that protrudes from the clip. The wide clip supports the weight very well and it does not shift at all. I do agree that you need a quality holster, but just because it has a clip does not reflect that. You have to look at the whole package.

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    Clips...

    Most of my holsters are from Fist (almost all are with a clip)...The clips will NOT release the holster unless you unhook it. The clips even work w/o a belt...but with a belt, you could pull all day...you're only going to get the gun (which is what you want).

    I have had some bad experiences with j-hooks...they don't alsways catch the belt...

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