Deep Concealment

Deep Concealment

This is a discussion on Deep Concealment within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Anyone used an undershirt bad like this? http://www.gunnersecurity.com/holster-shoulder.html I've been thinking of getting one, or a tuckable IWB. Realizing the tuckable would allow a faster ...

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    Deep Concealment

    Anyone used an undershirt bad like this?http://www.gunnersecurity.com/holster-shoulder.html
    I've been thinking of getting one, or a tuckable IWB. Realizing the tuckable would allow a faster presentation, my thoughts are the band would be more concealed under more types of clothes, considering I live in SW Texas (HOT) and I always tuck my shirt in, even t-shirts.
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    Looks like it would take too long to draw, but most deep cover rigs do that.

    Neat idea.....

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    Wish I had the link to hand but strikes me there are two major deep concealement options - both of which naturally increase draw time - that is unavoidable.

    The SmartCarry/Thunderwear type device is one and then there is the UC Comfort band such as used by fed_wif_a_sig .. and IIRC he has a sorta ''easy rip'' buttons/velcro facility for his shirt to gain fast access.
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    That almost looks like the kangaroo holster which I have and I can get my ultra carry out really fast.I like wearing western shirts with the snaps instead of buttons and I leave the top 2 snaps open and then grab at the 3rd snap with my left hand and pull it open as I grab the butt of my kimber with my right hand and its out like a flash,no problem at all.I just get my shirts one size larger,no printing at all.Also very comfortable to wear all day long. sj

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    Thanks for the recommendation Chris.

    I too live in the heat of hell (aka Texas)(Ok I'm an Okie and will forever want to live there) and as Chris said if you search my past post or the phrase "UC Comfort" you'll find where I have discussed the different types of deep concealment options, including the chest belly band you metioned and their pluses and minuses.

    Good luck and holar if I can ever be of help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjones View Post
    That almost looks like the kangaroo holster which I have and I can get my ultra carry out really fast.I like wearing western shirts with the snaps instead of buttons and I leave the top 2 snaps open and then grab at the 3rd snap with my left hand and pull it open as I grab the butt of my kimber with my right hand and its out like a flash,no problem at all.I just get my shirts one size larger,no printing at all.Also very comfortable to wear all day long. sj
    I just bought a kangaroo holster and it is pretty practical I must say. I haven't worn it "in the field" yet, but what do you do about sweat raining down on your pistol? Do you wear a t-shirt underneath your button-down?

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    If its cool I will wear a t-shirt,if hot then I don't,but either wayI don't sweat much at all.I never have so thats a problem I haven't had to worry about.I'm like everyone else in that I have a drawer full of holsters that I have bought.I ought to just try and sell the ones I never use they are just taking up space.The two I use the most are the kangaroo and a don hume JIT slide.If I could find a small compact OWB for an ultra carry I would probably buy it also.sj

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    One option that I have recently found is the Discrete Carry Shirts from Woolrich. Loose fitting, hidden velcro with the button sewn on the out side. I live in Georgia where it gets warm and really humid, this allows me to carry IWB like normal and a cool cover garment.
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    Frankly I don't see the point of that type of CCW for me. I live and work out of doors in a tropical climate. It boils down to hand gun size / caliber vs. how to & how much hide it. I use a fanny pack designed with a holster or loose shirt over my De Santis Scabbard.

    Sorry but that type of "Deep Cover" = "Six Foot Deep Cover For Me".

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    Thek9....thats ok that you dont understand it. However realize that some folks by dress code MUST wear their dress shirts tucked into their pants when they go to work and want to be able to take off their jackets. I work in an environment where I MUST tuck in my shirts and dress in slacks and long sleve dress shirts, occasionally a tie and sportscoat or suit jacket. At the same time I also MUST have on my person my duty pistol, two magazines, expandable batton, cuffs and knife. Now you might be comfortable in a fanny pack when wearing a suit, but it wont fly in my environment (and fanny packs are also banned for use). Plus in most areas, a fanny pack equeals GUN, not a good thing for some folks who's company just might decide their employment isnt needed anymore because they carry a weapon (even when company policy dosent ban them from carrying).

    Deep concealment isnt for everyone, but just because your style of dress allows you to be more relaxed (trust me, when I'm off duty, its jeans and an untucked t-shirt over my in the pants holster and magazines).

    As for your belief that "Deep Cover" = "Six Foot Deep Cover For Me", you might be right. However, thought my Deep Cover rig is slower than my belt or in the pants holsters, I can still draw, put two into a 6" target (from under a dress shirt) in under 1.5 seconds.

    Your lucky you dont need to dress up, but for those of us who do, there is a viable method that is proved and very effective and with training, very fast as well.
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    I am amazed you can hide that much under your clothing without a jacket. I'd like to see how you pull that off one day.
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    I have many friends in the same line of work as fed_ wif_ a_ sig and I have seen them carry a lot of stuff without a jacket.
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    Fed-Wif-A Sig,

    I read you loud and clear. Sometimes it's all about me. And yes, our work environments considerably different. I understand now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjmillig View Post
    Anyone used an undershirt bad like this?http://www.gunnersecurity.com/holster-shoulder.html...
    kjmillig,

    I am currently on my second of that particular holster, having worn out the first one.

    I personally enjoy it! I have used it alone for my primary in hot summer weather when wearing elastic waist gym shorts and a T-Shirt.

    I've carried a G-23, Ruger SP-101, Ruger Speed Six 3" barrel, Colt Officers and my Para P-12 in it. It works to my satisfaction.

    When carrying my revolvers in it, I literally forget they are there. It does seem to conceal the revolvers better too.

    Drawing from the holster is obviously quicker if wearing a button up shirt than with a T-Shirt or Sweater, but it is what it is... A "deep undercover rig".

    When carrying two guns, my BUG almost always rides there with primary on IWB or OWB.
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    I echo what fed_wif_sig said...


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