Kydex for CCW ? Is it too loud ?
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I just got a Kydex holster for my G23 and like it. Holds well, comfy, fast to clear.
However, I'm not sure if ...
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May 25th, 2007 10:41 PM
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Kydex for CCW ? Is it too loud ?
Hi guys.
I just got a Kydex holster for my G23 and like it. Holds well, comfy, fast to clear.
However, I'm not sure if I would like it for CCW. It really makes a definite "clunk" when removing the firearm. There may be times when it's important to unholster quietly - like when a BG is not directing his threats/actions at you directly. That noise seems to be a bit of a giveaway. Even if the BG doesn't know what that "clunk" is, it may draw attention and I never like attention.
Thoughts on this ? Valid concern ? No big deal ? Am I just a luddite leather guy ?
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May 25th, 2007 10:45 PM
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I had not considered that I admit .. I used a Fobus way back when P95 was my carry and it did need what I called an ''inertial'' draw ... fast and snappy - with noise!.
So yeah - could be the sound aspect is significant and of some importance. Yes, I think I'd agree a valid concern - seeing as a draw from leather is effectively silent. One never knows!!
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May 25th, 2007 10:48 PM
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I don't know what brand of kydex holster you have, but my Comp Tac is silent if you draw slowly.
The weapon needs to come out lightning fast in 99.9999999% of the situations I would ever find myself in. Kydex excels in that regard, and I would not consider the situations that fall in the .0000001% where leather may be better.
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May 25th, 2007 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Smith&Wessonfan
I don't know what brand of kydex holster you have, but my Comp Tac is silent if you draw slowly.
+1
I have a C-Tac for my g23 and its a great holster. I carry it 8-10 hrs a day and I can never notice it.
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May 25th, 2007 11:11 PM
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Noise? Not a problem...
I'm not going to be pulling my weapon from the holster unless there is going to be a lot of noise...the holster 'squeak' won't be noticed...
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May 26th, 2007 12:22 AM
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Unless you are not being careful, I don't think the noise will be noticed. My Serpa doesn't seem all that noisy, although the Fobus did make more noise on the draw.
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May 26th, 2007 12:59 AM
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I'm with retsupt99, everyone will forget the sound your holster makes once they hear you G-23 explode!
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May 26th, 2007 01:37 AM
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I've thought about this as well...drill on slow & silent draws making good use of your thumb to deaden movements (like overcoming the retention "click") but don't worry about it too much. But if it really bothers you, get leather. Better to be completely comfortable & confident than to have a nagging thought always lingering.
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May 26th, 2007 10:13 AM
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My Blade Tech can be drawn either way, but even in "noise mode" it isn't very loud. Had a Fobus years ago, what a POS, you couldn't get the gun out without yanking on it and it still wouldn't come out without a struggle.
Be safe..
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May 26th, 2007 11:17 AM
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Not that this directly applies to the tactical nature of your question, but it's an amusing incident:
A couple weeks ago I was taking a class at an outdoor range. I had active hearing protection on, and since we were outside and in a large group, I had them turned up higher than normal to hear the instructor.
So waiting my turn in the queue behind the firing line, I hear the tell tale clack-click of kydex right behind me. I spin around ready to come down with both feet on the guy behind me for handling his gun behind the line, but he's just standing there, arms crossed.
I realized that it was so dead quiet at that moment that the headphones had amplified the drawstroke of the active shooter 20 some feet away! It was such a normally quiet sound, percieved as so loud, that my brain was convinced it was right on top of me.
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May 26th, 2007 11:30 AM
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Fobus is quite loud "drawing from" as well as reholstering.
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May 26th, 2007 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Unless you are not being careful, I don't think the noise will be noticed. My Serpa doesn't seem all that noisy, although the Fobus did make more noise on the draw.
I agree, I switched over to Serpa a couple week ago.
Not only quieter, you don't have to snatch the pistol out. Just push the button and ease out the pistol.
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May 26th, 2007 03:05 PM
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Do they make a Kydex style holster lined with Nylon or such to prevent holster wear?
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May 27th, 2007 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by
Smith&Wessonfan
I don't know what brand of kydex holster you have, but my Comp Tac is silent if you draw slowly.
Comp-tac may or may not have an audible click on the draw, it depends on the tightness of the the tension screws and how much "click" it was built with (trigger guard). They will actually build it according to your preference. I like mine with a lot of click. FWIW, Comp-tac's GM once explained to me that they generally build their holsters for polymer framed pistols with more click. The holster for my one aluminum framed carry gun has almost no click at all.

Originally Posted by
Colin
Do they make a Kydex style holster lined with Nylon or such to prevent holster wear?
Nylon causes holster wear as well. Everything does.
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May 27th, 2007 03:03 PM
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I use CompTac's IWB C-Tac and OWB SetCant. The C-Tac is very quiet on the draw as previously mentioned. The OWB is a little noisy, but I drag my trigger finger on the kydex sheath when drawing if I want to reduce the sound to almost nothing.
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